Questions about the Blood Rage spell

[Michael Haneline]

I just stumbled across the spell "blood rage". I had some questions about the spell, and I'm not sure if they've been answered before because most searches about it return results regarding the bloodrager.

The spell says the following:
"The targets of this spell become angrier as they fight, the pain of their wounds fueling their strength. An affected creature gains a cumulative +2 morale bonus to Strength and a cumulative -1 penalty to AC for every 5 points of damage it takes (maximum +10 Strength, -5 AC) for the duration of the spell. These bonuses last until the spell expires or the target falls unconscious."

Does the damage damage have to be taken all at once, or separately. Would being healed reduce the bonus?

For example, say I am a level 7 warpriest. I cast this spell on myself, then take a single hit for 25 damage later in the round. On my next turn, I spend a point of fervor and heal 10 hp. Is Blood Rage granting me a +10 morale bonus to strength, or was it reduced to +6 because I healed?

If he uses a viscous weapon, and deals 4 damage to himself in round one from using it and 6 damage to himself in round from using it, does he get a +4 morale bonus to strength?

[Michael Haneline]

Any insight?
The spell is from Orcs of Golarion. Link

[Mathmuse]

The spell sounds like it counts damage taken while the spell is active. That is the only number relevant to its effects.

Taking more damage would increase that number. Damage reduction on the character would reduce the amount of damage dealt to the character, which would decrease the increase in that damage-taken number. Healing would not change the damage-taken number, because the number counts damage taken not current hit points.

The source of the damage also does not matter: the warpriest could attack himself due to a Confusion spell and that would still increase the damage and increase the morale bonus. Thus, this spell combines well with a viscous weapon.

[Michael Haneline]

Mathmuse wrote:

The spell sounds like it counts damage taken while the spell is active. That is the only number relevant to its effects.

Taking more damage would increase that number. Damage reduction on the character would reduce the amount of damage dealt to the character, which would decrease the increase in that damage-taken number. Healing would not change the damage-taken number, because the number counts damage taken not current hit points.

The source of the damage also does not matter: the warpriest could attack himself due to a Confusion spell and that would still increase the damage and increase the morale bonus. Thus, this spell combines well with a viscous weapon.

That's what I figured, but wanted to be sure it wasn't just my wishful thinking bias that the spell was that good for my warpriest.

[Michael Haneline]

Hmmmm, follow up questions: would this spell count as a "rage" for the purposes of not being able to enter more than one rage at a time? (I'm guessing so, since the rage spell counts.)

If so, are you counted as entering the rage when the spell is first cast, or when you first take damage (thus triggering the rage effect of the spell)?

[John Murdock]

Michael Haneline wrote:

Hmmmm, follow up questions: would this spell count as a "rage" for the purposes of not being able to enter more than one rage at a time? (I'm guessing so, since the rage spell counts.)

If so, are you counted as entering the rage when the spell is first cast, or when you first take damage (thus triggering the rage effect of the spell)?

the spell do not count as a rage unlike the spell rage which say that the effect is otherwise identical to the barbarian rage except that the subject is not fatigue, that spell mention nothing about raging or being similar to a rage, only the spell name has rage

[Michael Haneline]

John Murdock wrote:

Michael Haneline wrote:

Hmmmm, follow up questions: would this spell count as a "rage" for the purposes of not being able to enter more than one rage at a time? (I'm guessing so, since the rage spell counts.)

If so, are you counted as entering the rage when the spell is first cast, or when you first take damage (thus triggering the rage effect of the spell)?

the spell do not count as a rage unlike the spell rage which say that the effect is otherwise identical to the barbarian rage except that the subject is not fatigue, that spell mention nothing about raging or being similar to a rage, only the spell name has rage

Hmmm ok good point.