Unchained Titan Maulers?

[Archpaladin Zousha]

Is the Titan Mauler Barbarian archetype useable with the Unchained version of the Barbarian? Is it PFS legal?

[Sammy T]

It is legal. However, an Unchained Barbarian doesn't benefit as much from wielding a 2H weapon like a regular Barbarian does.

[Archpaladin Zousha]

How so?

[Sammy T]

An unBarb gets a flat bonus to damage when raging.

A Barb gets +STR.

This means the Barb can leverage their rage and +STR items for 1.5xSTR damage on 2H weapons. An unBarb only gets the flat damage regardless if they 1H or 2H a weapon.

If your intent is to go with unBarb for Titan Mauler, you should just be aware of that if you plan on using an oversize 2H weapon to dish out damage.

[Imbicatus]

A regular barbarian gets a str bonus, which when wielding a 2H weapon is increased by a
X1.5. An unchained barbarian gains a flat bonus to hit and damage, which is not increased for wielding a 2H weapon. It makes unbarbs better at TWF, instead of 2H.

[Archpaladin Zousha]

I should probably be a regular one then. I'm mostly interested in using a hammer of thunderbolts without needing to chop my hand off and replace it with a magic dwarven prosthetic.

[thaX]

To Clarify, it is the Bonus damage you guys are talking about, not the regular str damage the Barbarian has before raging, right?

[Bob Bob Bob]

thaX wrote:

To Clarify, it is the Bonus damage you guys are talking about, not the regular str damage the Barbarian has before raging, right?

If I am parsing this correctly, yes. They're only talking about the specific bonus a Barbarian gets from Rage, nothing else. All the other rules still work normally.

[Snowlilly]

The difference is, at most, 2 points of damage at 20th level. From 11th to 19th level the difference is 1 or 2 points of damage depending on the barbarians strength score. For 10th level and lower, the difference is damage is only 1 point.

The +1 to +5 damage from Powerful Stance more than makes up the difference.

[Sammy T]

We're probably getting beyond the scope of the original question, but UnBarb when using Powerful Stance cannot use Accurate Stance or simultaneously pounce in the surprise round or round 1 (either you Pounce as your action or you burn a move to enter the stance).

A regular Barb with Reckless Abandon is more accurate (translates to hitting on iteratives) and can pounce from the get go (again, more DPS). At post-pounce levels, both those lead to the Barb doing more damage overall than an UnBarb.

But once we start talking higher-level play, things get wonky anyways and too many variables start to creep in.