Paladin in Second Darkness help.


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So the title is just to give an idea of the setting. As it says, I'm a paladin in Second Darkness and we just got to the point where we

campaign plot:
are going to the underdark disguised as drow
and I could use some advice on a few issues.

First, the obvious, I'm a paladin. A stonelord paladin of Torag to be exact. I'm wondering what I should really be trying to do. I'm not a very social character (yay 10 charisma >.<) so I worry about a social story section being something where I can't really help. I'm a craftsman on the character, so there are activities I can do, but I don't want all my sessions to just be "I roll to finish making another hammer" or some such.

Second, the rogue in our group. Now this is the hard one. When we talked in our group that we wanted to do this campaign, I was excited to bring my WoW paladin to life in Pathfinder. He is very much of the opinion that everyone can become better, and deserves that chance. Honestly, I could have gone Sarenrae for his god, but I just recently played a cleric of one and was worried about it being too similar.

Anyways, the issue is our "neutral" rogue is very CE. Follows the Favored Sting, swears vengence on multiple enemies we deal with. Even has sacraficed a person on a demon altar. The only saving grace for me is his bluff is huge and I haven't in character had proof yet. Now, the issue is he wants to play our social face for the next book, and is also talking about killing people in their sleep and even the idea of summoning spawns of Rovagug in an effort to just kill off the "enemies".

I need help here people. He knew that I was excited to play my paladin, and it is seeming more and more like he wants it to either come to PvP, or make it so my character has to leave the group. I mean, you show me what LG paladin would be ok with someone summoning Rovagug stuffs.

So what advice to people have? How should I play my character in the coming book? What kind of activities should I be trying to do(we were told upfront by the quest giver that there will be atonements available to me immedietly upon our return)? How do I deal with a player that seemingly wants to just destroy the character I was excited to bring to the table?


You really just need to have a conversation with the GM first and then the player.

Try and understand their points of view and see if anything can come out of it. If not, it is probably not worth the pain for this character combination and someone should change it up.


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As for the plot situation, ...

You have to decide how much your character would sacrifice personally to stop what is about to happen to the world (hopefully you know the importance of what you are doing by now). If I were playing a Paladin through this, I would likely cross the line if I knew the significance of what was happening, though I would still not kill any innocents that were not already evil (which should be almost non-existent where you are).

The book you are in is painfully hard for a Paladin, even without other annoying players.

As a GM, I wouldn't make it extra hard for the paladin here and putting them into ridiculous moral situations unless I was also prepared for them to fight their way out of everything. Also, as a GM, I would allow Torag to bless you with full Fighter levels if he did take away your Paladin abilities for some time until your mission was complete and you atoned. I believe the adventure even suggests some things here for paladins.


justaworm wrote:

As for the plot situation, ...

You have to decide how much your character would sacrifice personally to stop what is about to happen to the world (hopefully you know the importance of what you are doing by now). If I were playing a Paladin through this, I would likely cross the line if I knew the significance of what was happening, though I would still not kill any innocents that were not already evil (which should be almost non-existent where you are).

The book you are in is painfully hard for a Paladin, even without other annoying players.

As a GM, I wouldn't make it extra hard for the paladin here and putting them into ridiculous moral situations unless I was also prepared for them to fight their way out of everything. Also, as a GM, I would allow Torag to bless you with full Fighter levels if he did take away your Paladin abilities for some time until your mission was complete and you atoned. I believe the adventure even suggests some things here for paladins.

Thanks a ton for the advice. I'm talking with the GM as it is about the situation, but I have to be cautious about talking to the player since I think he didn't even want me to know out of character what he is planning. I only found out cause the GM warned me.

I'm excited to see what kinds of things will be in store for my paladin, and I honestly hadn't considered even if I may have to cross the line. You've given me some good food for thought.


yea a lot of people look at the paladin code of conduct as this super strict break it and your a terrible person rules set, but if the story requires bending you can bend, as a paladin if you need to bend the rules for the greater good do it! a good GM wont punish you as long as you dont push the limits of it and have a good reason, obviously if you start going on a killing spree sacrificing women and eating babies then your probably gonna fall. Just use common sense and have faith!


SilvanOrion wrote:
I need help here people. He knew that I was excited to play my paladin, and it is seeming more and more like he wants it to either come to PvP, or make it so my character has to leave the group. I mean, you show me what LG paladin would be ok with someone summoning Rovagug stuffs.

Paladin? Pfft. Show me anybody who would be OK with summoning spawn of Rovagug, even to destroy their enemies.


Thank you Declindgrunt for the thought. I talked with my DM and he's pretty much in the same boat. As long as the end goal is kept in mind, and not the "well, you did say the dress looked good on them so you fall" mentality, I'll remember to keep up the good fight.

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