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Note: Ok, this is going to end up sounding kinda whiney, but it really isn't meant to be that. I'm more trying to determine if this is a common issue and maybe discuss if there is some sort of potential fix that could be considered.
Rarely have the purchasable items on chronicle sheets been something I wanted before I could just purchase it anyway. But a few times, I have played or run a module at low tier. Looking at the chronicle sheet there has been something on the high tier that the PC might have actually purchased (scroll, poison, or partially charged wand). Slightly annoying, but not that big a deal.
However, recently it was a more aggravating instance. I have a character that is built around using a certain exotic weapon. He's pretty amazing with it and has surprised many players at the table even when low level playing in the high tier.
Now avoiding spoilers, I played a scenario in low tier. There is that exact exotic weapon with special powers that there is no other way to gain in PFS except this chronicle sheet and this character would love to purchase it even if its limit use isn't really worth the cost. But it is only listed in the high tier.
Now as I understand the rules, there is absolutely no way to get the item. Can't have 2 of the same chronicle sheet on a character, so I can't use a replay or GM the scenario. According to the others at the table, I can't even decide to have played for no credit (I wasn't necessary to make a legal table) and wait until the PC is higher level. The odds of me ever playing another PC that uses the same exotic weapon is essentially nil.
After the scenario, I'm looking over the chronicle sheet. "Wow! Look at this X. It's so kool! He's gotta have that no matter the price." (I think the first time I've really had even close to that reaction for the list of items which can be purchased.) Nope. No way. Not possible. grr... Please believe me, I'm really not someone who wants the surprise of a scenario spoiled before I play it. However, I really wish I had waited to play that scenario (I had 2 others in low tier) until I could play or GM it at high tier.
Now I know there are many of you that have played/GM'd a whole lot more scenarios than I have. I'm told that some have played them all in standard mode and even getting close to that in core mode. So my questions are:
1) Is this an isolated incident or does this happen often enough that others consider it an issue?
2) Any ideas on how to work around this issue?
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Hmm... Personally, I wouldn't be thrilled for a con only boon as a solution. Between work, family, and money I'm lucky to make it to one con a year. That makes my odds of getting the solution pretty low. But I suppose then there would at least be a chance.
Hopefully with the revised regional boon support, access to boons won't be as limited going forward. Ask your local Venture Officers to look into participating and setting it up for your local game days.
Venture-Captain, California—Sacramento
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The con boon I am aware of specifically transfers allies and intelligent weapons. Is there one that transfers non intelligent items?
The boon transfers access to the item, the receiving character pays to buy it.
I would totally second the call to have a boon that lets you "uncross off" an item on a sheet.
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1) Is this an isolated incident or does this happen often enough that others consider it an issue?
2) Any ideas on how to work around this issue?
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1) I'd say it's a fairly corner case. Typically one of two things happens. Either you play a game with boon X that works on character Y, but you played character Z for it. Fortunately, you can GM that game and apply it to character Y. The other case is that boon X is perfect for character Y, but is the wrong level (typically a 1-5 boon but Y is level 6+). Rarer still that it's your circumstance. Because if you had played that game with any other character, you could have later GM'd it and applied credit to the appropriate character.
2) Suggestions of a boon that unlocks the higher tier are great, and as others have said, the new RSP program aims to get con boons into the hands of non-con goers. So it may be a situation where there'll be an easier solution to this going forward. The other less obvious fix is to GM more than you play, then you can see the boons coming. The downside is that you'll never be able to really contribute when it comes to investigative scenarios.
Is this an item that can be purchased or made once the appropriate Fame level is reached?
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No, it can not be otherwise made or purchased in any way that I know of so far.
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"Activating a monowhip is a move action; once activated, the whip consumes power incredibly quickly, at the rate of 1 charge per round."
The timeworn whip on the chronicle only comes with 7 charges. So you'd effectively be spending 24,500 gp on basically a single use item.
So it may not be a bad thing that you missed this item. It feels... not very good for its cost.
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Thankfully, that one is NOT missed out on my tengu cleric.
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I'm looking at that one for my
Venture-Lieutenant, Netherlands—Leiden
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Thankfully, that one is NOT missed out on my tengu cleric.
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I'm looking at that one for my
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Might want to check out the First Mother's Fang nagaji cavalier archetype in Blood of the Beast. The synergy with that scenario is insaaaane.
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Venture-Captain, Massachusetts—Boston Metro
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Thankfully, that one is NOT missed out on my tengu cleric.
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That item is heavily dependent on GM fiat. As written its really hard to tell how you are supposed to get the item but I know when I GM'd it both tables had different interpretations of how to give out that item and both were completely valid in how to read that scenario.
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Might want to check out the First Mother's Fang nagaji cavalier archetype in Blood of the Beast. The synergy with that scenario is insaaaane.Thankfully, that one is NOT missed out on my tengu cleric.
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I'm looking at that one for my
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Really, I wanted to play that scenario with my Nagaji Monk, but he's already level 13. I ended up playing with my sczarni Magus who was really the wrong character to have her morality tested.
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1) Is this an isolated incident or does this happen often enough that others consider it an issue?
2) Any ideas on how to work around this issue?
Random idea: if you GM a scenario, you also unlock the high-tier items for purchase off the chronicle applied from playing the scenario.
Recording this neatly on the paperwork needs some thought.
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As Michael says, you just have to make sure your character is in the subtier you would like them to receive when applying GM credit.
A GM who receives a Chronicle sheet that indicates her character is between subtiers must always receive the Out-of-Subtier gold value and access to items and boons for the subtier at which the adventure was played.
1. It is a pretty isolated case
2. There are no work arounds for your problem.
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I think he was suggesting a change whereby you could, possibly instead of reviving a new chronicle, unlock higher tier rewards on an existing player chronicle by GMing the scenario. I don't think he was suggesting that's how it currently works.
Exactly correct - a little extra bonus to tempt GMs, and to resolve this issue that has the effect of making people regret playing.