Card sharp for lethal damage?


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I had a thread over in the advice section about deadly dealer being able to do lethal damage without arcane strike, and it sit of devolved into a discussion of the rogue talent called card sharp fitting my question or not.

I think card sharp does not give your cards lethal damage, but I'd like more input on it. What do you guys think?


Deadly Dealer wrote:
You can throw a card as though it were a dart, with the same damage, range, and other features. You must use the Arcane Strike feat when throwing a card in this way, or else the card lacks the magical force and precision to deal lethal damage. A card is destroyed when thrown in this way.
Card Sharp wrote:
The rogue gains Deadly Dealer as a bonus feat, even if she does not meet the prerequisites. Thrown cards are treated as darts, but the rogue cannot imbue cards with additional power unless she has the Arcane Strike feat. This talent otherwise functions as the Deadly Dealer feat.

I read Card Sharp as doing lethal damage without Arcane Strike.

Deadly Dealer allows you to throw cards as darts, but only when using Arcane Strike.

Card Sharp gives you Deadly Dealer without the pre-req (Arcane Strike). Cards are treated like darts, but cannot be imbued with "additional power" without Arcane Strike. Since it says "additional power" then the stated power (being treated like a dart) happens even if you don't use Arcane Strike.

This seems confirmed by the last line noting Card Sharp "otherwise" functions as Deadly Dealer. "Otherwise" notes it is mostly similar, but has some difference. In this case, the difference is the middle sentence, allowing the cards to act as darts even when not using Arcane Strike.


You put that really well, I'm convinced. It wasn't connecting in my mind that card sharp was modifying the base damage and statistics as part of the exception it was providing to deadly dealer.

Thanks for your help.

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