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Alright, so I have a home-brew sort of game going, and in an upcoming part we run into a bunch or werewolves. Some of them are rangers with the favored enemy (humanoid [shapechanger]).
I had to fill a spot left by a player recently who had to drop from the game, but found another player that was willing to take his place. They presented me with a character and asked to play a changeling that was pretending to be another race because well changelings are not really well liked by most. I said alright, but then I remembered the rangers in the upcoming part.
In the D20PFSRDsite it states on the page for creating changeling characters as follows:
Type: Changelings are humanoids with the changeling sub-type.
But I can not find a full listing of all the sub-types oh humanoids, and I just am not sure if changelings count as shapechangers?
Also, since these werewolves all have the scent ability, and if changelings are indeed of the shapechanger sub-type, then would they recognize the changeling as a changeling instead of what the character is pretending to be? The player has an endgame in mind and I am unsure if that might get derailed since there wolves might out her if the scent ability would give her away. So yeah, just looking to see if I could get some opinions on that. Thanks and hope y'all have a great day.
In D&D 3.5 changelings were shapechangers descended from dopplegangers, introduced in the Eberron Campaign Setting. The Pathfinder version is entirely different and is not a shapechanger at all, they're descended from hags instead.
If your changelings are based off the Eberron ones then the question becomes whether scent might detect a humanoids' subtype. I'd call that either a perception check to notice, or a knowledge (local) to identify the humanoid.
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In D&D 3.5 changelings were shapechangers descended from dopplegangers, introduced in the Eberron Campaign Setting. The Pathfinder version is entirely different and is not a shapechanger at all, they're descended from hags instead.
If your changelings are based off the Eberron ones then the question becomes whether scent might detect a humanoids' subtype. I'd call that either a perception check to notice, or a knowledge (local) to identify the humanoid.
Did I mention I love lore like that? Seriously that is really cool. Thanks for that.
And yeah you provide a very valid point. The perception check to notice the odd scent though, would it get the bonus though? After all that is one of the bonuses to favored enemy. Same goes for knowledge local as well. Would he get that bonus to his knowledge check as well? In essence that boils down to the main primary question as to would the wolf get his favored enemy bonuses to identify or notice the changeling.
He gains a +2 bonus on Bluff, Knowledge, Perception, Sense Motive, and Survival checks against creatures of his selected type. Likewise, he gets a +2 bonus on weapon attack and damage rolls against them. A ranger may make Knowledge skill checks untrained when attempting to identify these creatures
Eberron changelings will have trouble with werewolf anti-shapechanger rangers from the above. The standard PF changelings won't.
BTW, self-hating werewolves?
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He gains a +2 bonus on Bluff, Knowledge, Perception, Sense Motive, and Survival checks against creatures of his selected type. Likewise, he gets a +2 bonus on weapon attack and damage rolls against them. A ranger may make Knowledge skill checks untrained when attempting to identify these creaturesEberron changelings will have trouble with werewolf anti-shapechanger rangers from the above. The standard PF changelings won't.
BTW, self-hating werewolves?
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Lol no the different werewolf tribes are having like a civil war. So they are hunting each other.