Shield Gauntlet Master, two weapon fighting and precise strike


Rules Questions


Hey, title say it all can I get precise strike damage when two weapon fighting with two gauntlets using this style?

Shield Gauntlet Style:

When using this style, if you begin your turn wearing a gauntlet or spiked gauntlet on your off hand, and you are not using that hand to hold or make attacks with any other weapons or shield, you gain a +1 shield bonus to AC. You lose this shield bonus whenever you attack with your gauntlet or hold a weapon or shield in that hand. While receiving this shield bonus to AC, your gauntlet or spiked gauntlet is treated as a buckler for the purpose of using other feats and abilities (though you are also considered to have a free hand).

Spoiler:

While using Shield Gauntlet Style, you no longer lose your shield bonus to AC when you attack with your gauntlet (or spiked gauntlet) or use it to hold a weapon. In addition, you add your gauntlet’s enhancement bonus to the shield bonus to AC granted by this feat as if it were a shield enhancement bonus.

Precise Strike (Ex):
At 3rd level, while she has at least 1 panache point, a swashbuckler gains the ability to strike precisely with a light or one-handed piercing melee weapon (though not natural weapon attacks), adding her swashbuckler level to the damage dealt. To use this deed, a swashbuckler cannot attack with a weapon in her other hand or use a shield other than a buckler. She can even use this ability with thrown light or one-handed piercing melee weapons, so long as the target is within 30 feet of her. Any creature that is immune to sneak attacks is immune to the additional damage granted by precise strike, and any item or ability that protects a creature from critical hits also protects a creature from the additional damage of a precise strike.

I guess the question comes down to does Shield Gauntlet Style meet the "To use this deed, a swashbuckler cannot attack with a weapon in her other hand or use a shield other than a buckler." requirement of the precise strike ability.


"While receiving this shield bonus to AC, your gauntlet or spiked gauntlet is treated as a buckler for the purpose of using other feats and abilities (though you are also considered to have a free hand)."

I believe while you're benefiting from the gauntlet for the shield bonus, it'll count as a buckler. Which is allowed by the precise strike ability. "To use this deed, a swashbuckler cannot attack with a weapon in her other hand or use a shield other than a buckler."

But even with Shielded Gauntlet Master, no TWF allowed with precise strike, "To use this deed, a swashbuckler cannot attack with a weapon in her other hand".
Using Shielded Gauntlet Master feat with spiked gauntlet attack as main attack and no TWF, precise strike is ok.
Using Shielded Gauntlet Master feat with spiked gauntlet attack as main attack or off-hand attack with TWF, no precise strike.


No. Under basically no circumstances can you ever benefit from Precise Strike and use more than 1 weapon. Because hands in this case doesn't mean physical hand, but means making off-hand attacks (such as those granted when TWF).

It's similar to why you can't TWF with a greatsword and unarmed strike (unarmed strikes don't need to be made with arms) or armor spikes.

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