The true Wujen!!!!

[JarithBloodstone]

Hey i'm looking to play the traditonal Wujen for Pathfinder, and i'm sorry but none that i've seen isnt even close,...I loved the Wujen from the original Oriental adventures that came out for Advanced Dungeons&Dragons they were cool,... and the revamped Wujen that was done in one of the Dragon magazines,....if anyone can give me full information on both of them i'd love it,.... And thnks

[Zhayne]

Be a Wizard with an Elemental specialty. Done. Everything else is style and flavor.

[kyrt-ryder]

Don't forget the White Pepper

[I'm Hiding In Your Closet]

Zhayne wrote:

Be a Wizard with an Elemental specialty. Done. Everything else is style and flavor.

That isn't true. Wu Jen had several differences from Elemental Wizards as Paizo's presently got them - different spells that "occidental" Wizards don't have, different special features (most prominently Spell Secrets, which paizo has an improved version for for Theologian Clerics), and different drawbacks. I would love to see a properly updated Wu Jen.

[master_marshmallow]

To be fair, we do need a third full spellcasting arcane caster to parallel the shaman, since there's a boat load of divine full casters with different casting mechanics.

Wu Jen might be cool, but I don't remember being too enthralled by them back in the day.

[Bardess]

Different mechanics? Do not shamans cast like druids, unlike the third full arcane spellcaster, aka the Arcanist?

[Vidmaster7]

An elemental focused arcanist would probably give a good wujen feel. Give them some elemental modifying options that they could spend arcane points on maybe give them ki points and some option with them that is how i would go about making one.

Paizo should add them in (could be done as an archetype like i said) Add some of the old oriental adventures spells too and were set.

[master_marshmallow]

Bardess wrote:

Different mechanics? Do not shamans cast like druids, unlike the third full arcane spellcaster, aka the Arcanist?

Hexes like a witch and a completely different spell list.

I could also see a 9 level casting bard type, which I'd be all for.

[I'm Hiding In Your Closet]

master_marshmallow wrote:

Wu Jen might be cool, but I don't remember being too enthralled by them back in the day.

The problem as I saw it was that Spell Secrets didn't give enough good options. As I said, Paizo's Theologian Cleric Archetype has an improved version of them. Then there was the "Watchful Spirit/Sudden Action" ability they got at 1st level, which is something else they could play around with.

[JarithBloodstone]

Thanks guys,...but wht i did so far is made the archtype as a wizard with the following
spellcasting of the universal spells, and Air,earth,fire,water,wood,and metal, spells so far, and the wizards scribe scroll.
I might even use the sorcerers spells per day,spells known.
and cant forget that the old wujen had taboos that they had to adhere too!!!

[gamer-printer]

I don't know if you can do a true Wujen in Pathfinder, the wujen used a completely different spell list than any other wizard. All Pathfinder spellcasters whether wizard, sorceror, magus, medium, spiritualist, all use the same spells, though some classes have abridged access to spells. Unless you can come up with a completely new set of Wujen spells for Pathfinder - it's not going to work.

In my more culturally authentic development of the Kaidan setting of Japanese Horror (PFRPG), I didn't even include a wujen, as wujen is not Japanese, and Kaidan is only Japanese.

[JarithBloodstone]

This is the common chinese elements that are used for the Wujen;Earth,Fire,Water,Metal,and Wood, that was there belief system, and that was used for the wujen ,for the spell lists,...But this is the Japanese Belief system,...Earth,Water,Fire,Wind,and Void,... so I was thinking of the elemental spell focus on the following spell list Earth,Water,Fire,Wind,Metal,Wood, and void, and basic universal spells, and the druid plant spells(Because of the wood element).

HitDice= D6

skills=Craft(Int),Fly(Dex),Knowledge(All,Taken Individually(Int),Profession(Wis),Spellcraft(Int).
Skills per lvl= 2+Int Modifier

Feats(Suited for the Wujen)
Enlarge spell
Extend spell
Still spell
Silent spell

Taboo's(1 at first lvl, than 1 every two lvl's)
All taboo's from Oriental adventures , and probably ones the player and DM can come up with that would be reasonable for the wujen!!!!!

this is wht I've gathered and came up with for the Wujen so far, any other suggestions would help,.....thnks

[clff rice]

Make Spell secret a Discovery. Having a free meta-magic applied to one spell can be pretty handy.

As for taboos just roleplay them if they are part of the mage society the character comes from.