5-Foot Step and Movement

[Roto]

SO this came up in a session I was running yesterday.

The rules for 5-foot step are:
You can move 5 feet in any round when you don't perform any other kind of movement. Taking this 5-foot step never provokes an attack of opportunity. You can't take more than one 5-foot step in a round, and you can't take a 5-foot step in the same round that you move any distance.

What happened was a person was prone and wanted to stand up and take a 5-foot step.

The rules for standing up while prone are:
Standing up is a move-equivalent action that provokes an attack of opportunity.

I interpreted standing up as a move action that a person wouldn't be able to 5-foot step afterwords.. The player disagreed with me. I was wondering who was right?

[bbangerter]

The player was. Move equivalent actions are not movement.

"Movement" in pathfinder almost always refers to actually moving from one grid square to another. That is, you have moved "...[some/any] distance." as stated as the very end of the 5' step rules you quoted. Standing up from prone is not moving any distance - you are still in the 5' grid square you started in.

[Tyinyk]

You can also use a standard action to take a move action.

[Nefreet]

You can stand up from prone and then take a 5 foot step.

You can even stand up from prone, free action drop prone, stand up from prone, and then take a 5 foot step.

A Swashbuckler could even stand up from prone, free action drop prone, stand up from prone, free action drop prone, swift action Kip Up, and then take a 5 foot step.

[Chess Pwn]

Nefreet wrote:

You can stand up from prone and then take a 5 foot step.

You can even stand up from prone, free action drop prone, stand up from prone, and then take a 5 foot step.

A Swashbuckler could even stand up from prone, free action drop prone, stand up from prone, free action drop prone, swift action Kip Up, and then take a 5 foot step.

This sounds like football practice. D:

[Drahliana Moonrunner]

It should be noted that barring special mechanics, such as Kip Up, the standing up from prone WILL provoke an AOO. Since that's usually the concern in discussions like this.

[Tarantula]

Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:

It should be noted that barring special mechanics, such as Kip Up, the standing up from prone WILL provoke an AOO. Since that's usually the concern in discussions like this.

Its also worth pointing out, that the AOO provoked by standing up is taken while the character is prone, so -4 AC to melee attacks, and you shouldn't trip them because they are already prone, and are about to stand up (preventing keeping someone prone indefinitely).

[Cuup]

Nefreet wrote:

You can stand up from prone and then take a 5 foot step.

You can even stand up from prone, free action drop prone, stand up from prone, and then take a 5 foot step.

A Swashbuckler could even stand up from prone, free action drop prone, stand up from prone, free action drop prone, swift action Kip Up, and then take a 5 foot step.

Throw on 2 Mythic tiers, and he could even drop prone a third time, spend a Mythic Power to get an additional Standard action, use it to stand up, and then 5' step.

[Tarantula]

Cuup wrote:

Nefreet wrote:

You can stand up from prone and then take a 5 foot step.

You can even stand up from prone, free action drop prone, stand up from prone, and then take a 5 foot step.

A Swashbuckler could even stand up from prone, free action drop prone, stand up from prone, free action drop prone, swift action Kip Up, and then take a 5 foot step.

Throw on 2 Mythic tiers, and he could even drop prone a third time, spend a Mythic Power to get an additional Standard action, use it to stand up, and then 5' step.

Or a character with the Stand Up rogue talent. He can drop prone (free action) and stand up (free action) as many times as the GM allows him to.

[Nefreet]

Now that reminds me of wrestling practice ^_^