
Chrion |

I am playing a necromancer wizard in a PF/3.x game right now and have been looking up the different things you can do with necromancy. Both these prestige look fun to me and I like the flavor of both. I don't have any experience with either them, however, so I am having trouble choosing between the two. So, any insight into their viability, fun-to-playness, upsides\downsides etc. would be appreciated.
Agent of the Grave:
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/prestige-classes/other-paizo/a-b/agent-of-t he-grave
Pale Master:
http://alcyius.com/dndtools/classes/pale-master/index.html

Flamephoenix182 |
I played a pale master in 3.5. I found to get use out of the undead graphs and touch attacks that they play more like a gish classes. Going in as a second wave to support their undead.
The agent of the grave is more of the traditional necromancer staying back behind their minions slinging spells and buffing.
Are you converting the palemaster at all? That d4 hp will hurt a lot in pathfinder.
Personally from a pathfinder context I think the agent of the grave is better as you don't need to do any conversion

Chrion |

If I decided to take the Pale Master class, I would do some work with it to bring it as close to the pathfinder format as I could, which wouldn't require that much really. I've seen the pale master class recommended a lot in a lot of necromancer guides, which is why I got interested in it in the first place. I do like the play style of the necromancer who sends in his undead and then shoots spells from the back lines more and one getting up into the front lines. Also, I just like the flavor of the Pale Master because my necromancer is (secretly) on the path to Lich-hood. I think What I will do is take my wizard to lvl 7 so I can get a psuedodragon to use wands and deliver touch attacks and then take the 5 Agent of the Grave levels and then go into the Pale Master class levels. Thoughts?

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If I decided to take the Pale Master class, I would do some work with it to bring it as close to the pathfinder format as I could, which wouldn't require that much really. I've seen the pale master class recommended a lot in a lot of necromancer guides, which is why I got interested in it in the first place. I do like the play style of the necromancer who sends in his undead and then shoots spells from the back lines more and one getting up into the front lines. Also, I just like the flavor of the Pale Master because my necromancer is (secretly) on the path to Lich-hood. I think What I will do is take my wizard to lvl 7 so I can get a psuedodragon to use wands and deliver touch attacks and then take the 5 Agent of the Grave levels and then go into the Pale Master class levels. Thoughts?
Agent of the Grave first and then Pale Master sounds good. Pale master isn't amazing and you lose a caster level but it's super thematic. If you have access to Libris Mortis be sure to take the corpsecrafter feats as well as Fell Drain and Fell Animate feats (and magical lineage trait to apply fell drain for free to one area of effect spell!)
How are you going to have a pseudodragon familiar though, they're neutral good and require a NG master. An on the way to lichdom necromancer doesn't strike me as NG...