claudekennilol
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My monk is level 7 (bloodrager 1, maneuver master monk 6). Right now I've got the following.. (Focusing on Dirty Trick then Disarm, with Grapple as a backup (basically I just have Improved Grapple so that if something attempts to grab me it provokes via Maneuver Defense). I've got about 14,000 gold to spend
Dusty Rose Prism Ioun Stone (+1 insight to AC, +2 insight to CMB/CMD when in a wayfinder)
Furious Amulet of Mighty Fists
Ring of Protection +1
Dex Belt (+2)
Wis Headband (+2)
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miscellaneous stuff
Cold Iron Glaive
Darkwood Composite +3 Longbow
My choices are pretty much as follows.
Add Dueling to my amulet to get an additional +4 on most maneuvers (additional 12k to add it).
Monk's Robes - At this point it'll only be a +1 to AC and one 'damage size' up, doesn't seem worth it until I take another level of monk which will be a while (if at all). (13k)
Save up for an Ebon Wayfinder (18k) and get a Clear Spindle Ioun Stone (4k, 22k for both)
Upgrade Ring of Protection to +2 (6k)
Make my dex +2 belt a dex/str +2 belt (12k)
Something else I haven't considered. I'm definitely leaning towards the Dueling enhancement.
Other things of note, I'm a qinggong monk with Barkskin as an SLA for a +3 and a wand of mage armor for +4. I generally walk around with AC 26, Touch 19, and Flat-footed 24. Which isn't ridiculously high, but if there are other bonuses out there (haste, shield, something with a deflection bonus higher than +1), then it goes up quickly.
| fearcypher |
Pretty solid.
Bracers of Armor are something to look at. It completely replaces the Wand of Mage Armor once it reaches +4.
Cloak of resistance as well.
Im curious of your class. Why Bloodrager dip? I can see you used it for weapons, but why not Fighter?
Why not bloodrager? the only thing a fighter gets him is an extra feat. Bloodrager gives him an attack steroid, better class skills, a movement speed boost, and a potentially useful power.
Charon's Little Helper
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The cloak of resistance is the obvious choice.
You could also do the Allying weapon trick for your unarmed attacks, which is a bit cheaper then adding Dueling, and eventually much cheaper. (Since you're a Maneuver Master, possibly the choice after Dueling.) Depending upon your GM, to make it work the Flurry of Maneuvers, you may need to put it on a Body Wrap of Mighty Strikes instead of a held weapon.
| ChaosTicket |
Why not bloodrager? the only thing a fighter gets him is an extra feat. Bloodrager gives him an attack steroid, better class skills, a movement speed boost, and a potentially useful power.
Class features dont increase when you multiclass, meaning the bloodline power and bloorage will always be level 1 unless you continue to split levels, weakening you as a Monk and overall. The bonus movement is redundant as the Monk already gets more than enough from its own class feature.
Monk isnt really compatible with most multiclassing as it cant mix things well. If your class could Flurry and Rage(and keep growing), that would be great.
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Bodywrap of Mighty Strikes can be useful for Monks.
hey something to mention is Eastern Weapons. Youre using a pre-unchained monk so you dont have simple or martial weapon proficiencies by default, but that multiclass means you have the proficiencies. Most weapons that a Monk can combine with Flurry are in the Eastern Weapon list.
Sansetsukon is quite good as its a two-handed weapon a Monk can Flurry with. Two-handed weapons get a +50% boost to damage bonus and if you have Power Attack, that is also boosted by 50%.
Several of the Monk weapons have combat maneuver specials like Trip and Disarm. The Monk Spade isnt great on damage, but it has multiple damage types to overcome damage reduction.
claudekennilol
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fearcypher wrote:Why not bloodrager? the only thing a fighter gets him is an extra feat. Bloodrager gives him an attack steroid, better class skills, a movement speed boost, and a potentially useful power.Class features dont increase when you multiclass, meaning the bloodline power and bloorage will always be level 1 unless you continue to split levels, weakening you as a Monka dn overall. The bonus movement is redundant as the Monk already gets more than enough from its own class feature.
Monk isnt really compatible with most multiclassing as it cant mix things well. If your class could Flurry and Rage(and keep growing), that would be great.
My first level feat was Extra Rage. I've got 12 rounds of rage a day (4 base, 2 con, 6 feat) which has been more than enough for every PFS scenario I've been in. I'm a steelblooded bloodrager which gives me a static +1 to my CMB (very valuable for what I do)--and between the rage and furious amulet, I get an additional +4. I took the abyssal bloodline so I have two claws--meaning three combat maneuvers per round (assuming full attack). Do note that a maneuver master monk does not have Flurry of Blows. I have a different flurry (Flurry of Maneuvers). The difference is that it's not its own full attack, but whenever I make a full attack, I add an extra combat maneuver for free.
Long story short, I dipped bloodrager to get +5 to my combat maneuvers--and that will increase to +9 once I add Dueling to my amulet--and 3 "attacks" per round.
Several of the Monk weapons have combat maneuver specials like Trip and Disarm. The Monk Spade isnt great on damage, but it has multiple damage types to overcome damage reduction.
I don't really do damage unless I absolutely have to, and if I absolutely have to then I'll probably play something else. One of my shining moments was flying up, grappling a flying menace, and dragging it down to the ground to let my party beat the crap out of it.
On the other hand.. Ya'all are right, I completely overlooked/forgot about a cloak of resistance. I'll start with Dueling and get a +1 cloak eating up most of my funds.
Going forward my next two levels will Fighter (Lore Warden) which will give me Kitsune Style, Kitsune Tricks, and Kitsune Vengeance. (two bonus feats and my 9th level feat). For 10 and 11 I will take Monk 7 and get the Monk's Robes and Lore Warden 3 for the +2 to CMB. I haven't decided the order of those last two levels yet.
claudekennilol
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I would have titled this thread something different. If your going exclusively for combat maneuvers than some items and advice related to Monks arent going to help.
I am sure someone else can help you with a no-Flurry Monk.
I'm sorry you found it confusing. I didn't feel the need to spell out my entire class abilities when I specifically said in the first line that I was a Maneuver Master monk and laid out what I specialize in.