
Anthony Orr |
So my question is if a magus 10 takes the armor focus feat and then takes the advanced armor training feat and selects armor specialization does he gain:
1 - nothing as he has no fighter levels
2 - 1/2 his magus level because of fighter training
3 - full magus level as the feat is assumed to overcome specifics
I have looked all over but my searchfu has failed me.

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The Magus counts as a fighter of half his level for the purpose of feat prerequisites. The benefit of armor specialization is not a feat prerequisite. Nothing about the Magus or the Armor Focus feat otherwise gives him fighter levels, therefore he doesn't have them. So unfortunately this combo doesn't work.

Protoman |

Magus doesn't qualify for Advanced Armor Training combat feat.
Magus level 10 Fighter Training will cover the "fighter level 3rd" prereq, but the Advanced Armor Training combat feat requires Armor Training as a class feature, which magus doesn't provide.
Armor Focus feat doesn't help as it only "counts as the armor training class feature for the purpose of armor mastery feat prerequisites". The Advanced Armor Training combat feat is not an Armor Mastery feat.
An armored battlemage or myrmidarch would work though as they keep fighter training class feature and get armor training and can get advanced armor training without the feat. But neither of these archetypes would help with the Armor Specialization advanced armor training option because they don't have effective fighter levels for the advanced armor training effects that are level-dependent.

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Magus doesn't qualify for Advanced Armor Training combat feat.
Magus level 10 Fighter Training will cover the "fighter level 3rd" prereq, but the Advanced Armor Training combat feat requires Armor Training as a class feature, which magus doesn't provide.
Armor Focus feat doesn't help as it only "counts as the armor training class feature for the purpose of armor mastery feat prerequisites". The Advanced Armor Training combat feat is not an Armor Mastery feat.
An armored battlemage or myrmidarch would work though as they keep fighter training class feature and get armor training and can get advanced armor training without the feat. But neither of these archetypes would help with the Armor Specialization advanced armor training option because they don't have effective fighter levels for the advanced armor training effects that are level-dependent.
Actually the Armored Battlemage would work fully since they do keep the Fighter Training at level 10. So at that point they count as a 5th level fighter.