| Yogmoth |
Hi, I'm playing a necromancer and as such i would like to buy/craft a magical item allowing to cast desecrate but i had trouble with putting a price on them.
Could you help me ?
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items#TOC-Magic-Item-Creation
-1- a staff holding 10 charges, using 2 of them to cast desecrate
"The materials cost is subsumed in the cost of creation: 400 gp × the level of the highest-level spell × the level of the caster (...) Divide the cost of the spell by the number of charges it consumes to determine its final price. (...)The creator must have prepared the spells to be stored (or must know the spells, in the case of a sorcerer or bard) and must provide any focus the spells require as well as material component costs sufficient to activate the spell 50 times (divide this amount by the number of charges one use of the spell expends)"
For what i understand crafting cost would be (400 x 2 x 8 + 50 x 50)/2 = 2450
I wonder what it market price would be. 2 x 4450 = 8900 or less if the material cost of the desecrate spell is not counted twice so 7650 gp.
-2- the same staff using 3 charge to cast desecrate
(400 x 2 x 8 + 50 x 50) / 3 = 2966
Is market price 5933 or 4683 ?
| Menacing Shade of mauve |
Hi, I'm playing a necromancer and as such i would like to buy/craft a magical item allowing to cast desecrate but i had trouble with putting a price on them.
Could you help me ?
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items#TOC-Magic-Item-Creation
-1- a staff holding 10 charges, using 2 of them to cast desecrate
"The materials cost is subsumed in the cost of creation: 400 gp × the level of the highest-level spell × the level of the caster (...) Divide the cost of the spell by the number of charges it consumes to determine its final price. (...)The creator must have prepared the spells to be stored (or must know the spells, in the case of a sorcerer or bard) and must provide any focus the spells require as well as material component costs sufficient to activate the spell 50 times (divide this amount by the number of charges one use of the spell expends)"
For what i understand crafting cost would be (400 x 2 x 8 + 50 x 50)/2 = 2450
Your maths, they are wrong. 6400/2 + 2500/2 to craft, 4450 total. I don't have a source, but I think only the enchantment cost is doubled, final market price 7650.
Diego Rossi
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1) You shouldn't make a staff with only 1 spell in it. It is against the idea of the item.
A staff is a long shaft that stores several spells.
2)
"For what i understand crafting cost would be (400 x 2 x 8 + 50 x 50)/2 = 2450I wonder what it market price would be. 2 x 4450 = 8900 or less if the material cost of the desecrate spell is not counted twice so 7650 gp."
Crafting cost is (400 x 2 x 8)/2 cost of the staff + (50 x 50) cost of the components. So 3.200+2500= 5.700
Sell price (400 x 2 x 8)+(50 x 50) = 8.900
If the staff use 3 charges: [(400 x 2 x 8)/2 + (50 x 50)]/3 = 1.900
Sell price [(400 x 2 x 8) + (50 x 50)]/3 = 2.966,67
You always pay the full cost of the components when crafting but you don't multiply it when selling.
The best example are the tomed, example tome of clear thoughts, Price 27,500 gp (+1), Cost 26,250 gp (+1). The 25.000 gp for the diamond are a part of the crating cost and final price that don't change.
There is a important point about that: the material component cost has no influence on the crafting time. I.e. the time to craft something is based on the sell price without the cost of the material components. The tome above require 3 days, not 28.
In addition, some items cast or replicate spells with costly material components. For these items, the market price equals the base price plus an extra price for the spell component costs. The cost to create these items is the magic supplies cost plus the costs for the components. Descriptions of these items include an entry that gives the total cost of creating the item.
The cost of the components is always the same, what you did pay to get them.
| Yogmoth |
1) You shouldn't make a staff with only 1 spell in it. It is against the idea of the item.
PRD wrote:A staff is a long shaft that stores several spells.
I have been thinking about what you said, and come back with another question:
Let's had to our desecrate staff (10 charges, 3 for a desecrate), a lvl 2 spell using 2 charges and a level 1 spell using 1.
If i understand you correctly the market buying price (not crafting price) would be
((400 x 2 x 8 ) + (50 x 50)) /3 + (300 x 2 x 8) /2 + (200 x 1 x 8) = 6966 gp ??
Diego Rossi
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Yogmoth wrote:1) You shouldn't make a staff with only 1 spell in it. It is against the idea of the item.
PRD wrote:A staff is a long shaft that stores several spells.
I have been thinking about what you said, and come back with another question:
Let's had to our desecrate staff (10 charges, 3 for a desecrate), a lvl 2 spell using 2 charges and a level 1 spell using 1.
If i understand you correctly the market buying price (not crafting price) would be
((400 x 2 x 8 ) + (50 x 50)) /3 + (300 x 2 x 8) /2 + (200 x 1 x 8) = 6966 gp ??
Yes.