Yeah, Fate's Favored is better than most Feats.
Really, FF should be Errata'd to increase ONE specific Luck Bonus Target of your choosing.
E.g. Will Save, AC, Attack. Not anything that gets a Luck Bonus, just one thing.
That is in line with other Traits.
And if Jingasa or whatever was going to use Luck Bonuses to AC, it should have been Luck Bonus to AC VERSUS CRITS (Confirms).
And have it negate any ability that auto-crits/ auto-confirms crits, perhaps once/day only.
But for all the people b&@@*ing about how this errata is outrageous or unbalanced on it's own,
where were you when Jingasa was released and nobody said it was an outrage?
That's the kind of audience that just doesn't care about balance in the game, they just want their cheap powerups.
And if people want to discuss Jingasa they should make a thread for that,
not try to pretend they are discussing high and mighty topics like "the Errata Cycle and Health of the Game".
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where were you when Jingasa was released and nobody said it was an outrage?
Well, they were probably the people saying that it had no need to be errata'd that it was fine as it was. They saw it as a non-broken option that was cool and effective. Why would you be outraged about that? Do you get outraged every time the release a class that is better than the core rogue?
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where were you when Jingasa was released and nobody said it was an outrage?Well, they were probably the people saying that it had no need to be errata'd that it was fine as it was. They saw it as a non-broken option that was cool and effective. Why would you be outraged about that? Do you get outraged every time the release a class that is better than the core rogue?
Agreed, I never thought the Jingasa was broken. Good, yeah. Any reference to it in my guides was at a blue (a solid option), not purple (a class defining one) because it's a slight AC buff and situational life saver, which felt pretty in line for a 5k cost.
And this thread has discussed that the brutal errata of items to make them effectively worthless is a huge problem, and that this isn't the only example. Also that things like Crane Wing showed that PFS is a disproportionately large influence in errata decisions, as no one was complaining about this item, at least aside from "it's the only good head slot item." I didn't even see threads about that though, this wasn't a polarizing item like the mask of stony demeanor when it came out for WAY too cheap, it was just a generally useful head slot item.
Trust me, I like cheap power ups, but I like them because they make the early game interesting from the perspective of a new character actually being able to diversify their magical item list instead of just saving up for the big six.
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Yeah, Fate's Favored is better than most Feats.
Really, FF should be Errata'd to increase ONE specific Luck Bonus Target of your choosing.
E.g. Will Save, AC, Attack. Not anything that gets a Luck Bonus, just one thing.
That is in line with other Traits.And if Jingasa or whatever was going to use Luck Bonuses to AC, it should have been Luck Bonus to AC VERSUS CRITS (Confirms).
And have it negate any ability that auto-crits/ auto-confirms crits, perhaps once/day only.But for all the people b~~!&ing about how this errata is outrageous or unbalanced on it's own,
where were you when Jingasa was released and nobody said it was an outrage?
That's the kind of audience that just doesn't care about balance in the game, they just want their cheap powerups.And if people want to discuss Jingasa they should make a thread for that,
not try to pretend they are discussing high and mighty topics like "the Errata Cycle and Health of the Game".
I did already say that they're repeating the same process as Crane Wing. Let's review the overall history of what they did.
First, they practically destroyed the feat chains that allowed the supposed "abuse", making the second feat useless and the third feat broken (Surprisingly, first feat is still pretty strong option). Then, they nerfed the archtype that provided said venue to supposed "abuse," which was all that had to be fixed to solve the supposed "abuse" in the first place. (It's still a functional archetype, but it has a lot of unnecessary bonus feats now.) Lastly, they "fixed" the feat chain to not be as useless or broken, but it still kind of is.
Let's compare that what they did here: They practically destroyed the value of this item that allowed the supposed "abuse" of everyone taking bonuses related to that item (which actually resulted in people to basically change which item is granting their AC). Based on their previous track record, they would nerf Fate's Favored so it's not causing such abuse, and then perhaps raise the bar back up some for the Jingasa (maybe re-grant the Luck Bonus, or the 1/day Critical negation, but not both obviously), though this will be over the course of several months or so before this happens.
