White Haired Witch & Grapple for PFS Rules Clarification


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I've read some of the posts re: WHW & Grapple/Grab mechanic and noticed there haven't been clear replies from the Dev team regarding the rules for this archetype.

This is my attempt at getting an answer.

1. Assuming extra attacks with the hair, (bab iterative attacks or flurry of blows: monk dip, etc) is it possible to grapple multiple opponents?

1. a) Does maintaining the grapple for the WHW require a standard action to do so? Seems the WHW can move to pin only one opponent in the subsequent round(s) in this case...

RAW wrote:
If you do not release the grapple, you must continue to make a check each round, as a standard action, to maintain the hold. If your target does not break the grapple, you get a +5 circumstance bonus on grapple checks made against the same target in subsequent rounds. Once you are grappling an opponent, a successful check allows you to continue grappling the foe, and also allows you to perform one of the following actions (as part of the standard action spent to maintain the grapple).

2. Does the Grappled opponent appear in the square adjacent to the WHW?

RAW wrote:
If you successfully grapple a creature that is not adjacent to you, move that creature to an adjacent open space (if no space is available, your grapple fails).

2. a) Would make the Pull ability gained at WHW level 6 be made redundant?

RAW wrote:
Pull (Ex): At 6th level, a white-haired witch who successfully strikes a foe with her hair can attempt a combat maneuver check to pull the creature 5 feet closer to her as a swift action*.

3. Does the WHW hair affect creatures of any size? Or those sized the same & smaller as the WHW?


1: Nothing forbids it.
1a: The WHW only has 1 standard action to spend to maintain the grapple, and must release the other grappled enemies at the start of her turn.

2: No exception written, so yes.
2a: Mostly yes.

3: The WHW does not have the Grab monster ability, and neither gains the +4 to grapple from that nor the size restriction.


2a) Isn't the pull instead of the grapple?

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Bubbles the Magnificent wrote:

2. a) Would make the Pull ability gained at WHW level 6 be made redundant?

RAW wrote:
Pull (Ex): At 6th level, a white-haired witch who successfully strikes a foe with her hair can attempt a combat maneuver check to pull the creature 5 feet closer to her as a swift action*.

No, because you can use the Pull ability whenever you strike your foe with your hair, even if your grapple was unsuccessful (or if you choose not to grapple).


Andy Brown wrote:
2a) Isn't the pull instead of the grapple?

Upon successful hair attack, a WHW can roll to grapplewith her hair as a free action


Thank you Manly-man and pH

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