Astral Projection and Summoning


Rules Questions

Liberty's Edge

if someone is astrally projecting onto a plane can you still cast summoning magic onto the plane your astral form is on? also can you have an astral projection on the same plane as your physical body? IE both your body and the astral form are in the abyss at the same time?


I think yes to the first, no to the second.


If you project onto a plane other than the astral you form a physical body there.

You can not project to the material plane. nor can you project to the same plane you are on.


Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:
You can not project to the material plane. nor can you project to the same plane you are on.

There is no actual mention or suggestion of either of these in the rules.

Even if not being able to project to the same plane you're on is RAI (you can do it by the rules though), there is no reason to infer that you cannot project to the material plane.


At best the RAI could be you can't form an astral projection on the plane you are on and you can't form one on your native plane. But there's nothing special about the material plane. Several statted demon lords have Astral Projection as an ability, and I'm sure they can use it to visit the material plane.


Pathfinder Starfinder Society Subscriber

The real question is whether you can move your soul back to the Material Plane without sending it back into your body. That is what you would have to do to astrally project onto the Material Plane.


I would say that your astral self can find its way onto the Material Plane, based on (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/a/astral-projection):

You project your astral self onto the Astral Plane, leaving your physical body behind on the Material Plane in a state of suspended animation. The spell projects an astral copy of you and all you wear or carry onto the Astral Plane. Since the Astral Plane touches upon other planes, you can travel astrally to any of these other planes as you will. To enter one, you leave the Astral Plane, forming a new physical body (and equipment) on the plane of existence you have chosen to enter.

However, as I interpret that paragraph, if you do have your astral self running around the Material Plane, it won't be as an invisible, intangible "ghost", but as basically an animated clone.


There has never been anything special about the Material Plane that would stop you from astral projecting onto it.

The only point of contention is astral projecting onto a plane where you already have a body. By pure RAW, nothing prevents you from doing so. RAI may be another matter.

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