Does Elven "Immunity to magic sleep effects" apply to sleep buffs and dream spells?

[Josh Parmley]

Do Elven Immunites apply to sleep buffs such as Nap Stack? What about spells that effect dreams, such as Dream and Nightmare?

[Diego Rossi]

Josh Parmley wrote:

Do Elven Immunites apply to sleep buffs such as Nap Stack? What about spells that effect dreams, such as Dream and Nightmare?

PRD wrote:

Elven Immunities: Elves are immune to magic sleep effects and get a +2 racial saving throw bonus against enchantment spells and effects.

Nap Stack wrote:

You reduce the amount of uninterrupted sleep or rest creatures within the spell's area need in order to recover from injuries, regain spells, or other special abilities to 2 hours instead of the normal eight

Nope. Not a sleep effect. It affect the rest you get from sleeping, it don't make you sleep.

Same thing for Dream, Nightmare and so on. They don't make you sleep, thy affect you when you are sleeping.

[Samasboy1]

If you keep the "elves don't sleep" bit from Elves of Golarion (like I do), they would be immune.

But the Elven Immunities trait doesn't make them immune, by itself.

[Diego Rossi]

Samasboy1 wrote:

If you keep the "elves don't sleep" bit from Elves of Golarion (like I do), they would be immune.

But the Elven Immunities trait doesn't make them immune, by itself.

Old 3.5 rule (that product was a 3.5 product), not ported over in Pathfinder.

[Samasboy1]

Diego Rossi wrote:

Old 3.5 rule (that product was a 3.5 product)

True enough. Nothing in Pathfinder says elves don't sleep. More of a legacy thing.