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Question. After releasing elemental touch with spell combat (Magus) how I treat this magic? Not a touch of magic, it's personal, but grants touches attacks and can be used with unarmed strike, slam attack and claw attack. However cause damage to anything hold by the hand which contains the energy effect?
The magus will destroy his own sword combining this magic with spellstrike. Nothing in the Spellstrike tells about extend his benefits to others spells with no touch in basic description (range: touch).
Even worse if you read the FAQ:
"Basically, the spellstrike gives the magus more options when it comes to delivering touch spells; it’s not supposed to make it more difficult for the magus to use touch spells."
And
On a related topic, the magus touching his held weapon doesn’t count as “touching anything or anyone” when determining if he discharges the spell.
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Elemental touch dont have discharge and not is a touch spell attack like shoking grasp or chill touch, more like a buff.
Elemental Touch specifically states it gives you a Melee Touch Attack option that has different effects depending on which element you cast, and lasts for the duration of the spell. This isn't a Touch Spell, per se, so it shouldn't wink out if you cast something like Shocking Grasp, but this also means you can't use Spellstrike with it, and make your Sword deal the Elemental Touch effects, as it's not a Touch Spell, but a Spell that grants you a Touch Attack effect, which also works with Unarmed Strikes and Natural Weapons (i.e. Claws and Slams, as it mentions in the description).
Presuming you cast this on your Free Hand, this means that if you deliver Touch Spells with your Spell Combat without using Spellstrike (AKA, deliver the spell normally), you deal your Elemental Touch damage and effects on top of your Spell's normal effects.
Personally, I think this spell is stupid unless you're an Unarmed-type character who wants a little extra bit added to his fists. Even then, there are better spells for that (Vine Strike, Lockjaw, et. al.), and as a Magus it's just not worth it.
Elemental Touch specifically states it gives you a Melee Touch Attack option that has different effects depending on which element you cast, and lasts for the duration of the spell. This isn't a Touch Spell, per se, so it shouldn't wink out if you cast something like Shocking Grasp, but this also means you can't use Spellstrike with it, and make your Sword deal the Elemental Touch effects, as it's not a Touch Spell, but a Spell that grants you a Touch Attack effect, which also works with Unarmed Strikes and Natural Weapons (i.e. Claws and Slams, as it mentions in the description).
Presuming you cast this on your Free Hand, this means that if you deliver Touch Spells with your Spell Combat without using Spellstrike (AKA, deliver the spell normally), you deal your Elemental Touch damage and effects on top of your Spell's normal effects.
Personally, I think this spell is stupid unless you're an Unarmed-type character who wants a little extra bit added to his fists. Even then, there are better spells for that (Vine Strike, Lockjaw, et. al.), and as a Magus it's just not worth it.
Yes. I'm trying to understand what the hell this magic is in magus spell list.
The only utility that came to me is to combine this with spell stone fist, but spend two rounds, two slot for 2d6 and give up the critics with weapon does not look closely reasonable.
Elemental Touch specifically states it gives you a Melee Touch Attack option that has different effects depending on which element you cast, and lasts for the duration of the spell. This isn't a Touch Spell, per se, so it shouldn't wink out if you cast something like Shocking Grasp, but this also means you can't use Spellstrike with it, and make your Sword deal the Elemental Touch effects, as it's not a Touch Spell, but a Spell that grants you a Touch Attack effect, which also works with Unarmed Strikes and Natural Weapons (i.e. Claws and Slams, as it mentions in the description).
Presuming you cast this on your Free Hand, this means that if you deliver Touch Spells with your Spell Combat without using Spellstrike (AKA, deliver the spell normally), you deal your Elemental Touch damage and effects on top of your Spell's normal effects.
Personally, I think this spell is stupid unless you're an Unarmed-type character who wants a little extra bit added to his fists. Even then, there are better spells for that (Vine Strike, Lockjaw, et. al.), and as a Magus it's just not worth it.
It's a decent spell for an Esoteric Magus: mainly for the debuffing special effects. Cast it just before combat or at the start of combat and, as you say, you can add touch spells on top of it. Something like an Enforcer, Frostbite + Rime Spell, Elemental Touch combo could be nice.
If you are using polymorph spells + Frigid Touch, Elemental Touch has a place.
Change into something with 6+ natural attacks and go to town.