Rednaz the lost
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I have a kitsune character build that could possibly be op on sneak attacks. But I have some questions in the end that needed to be addressed in order for this to work.
!!!Warning very long reading!!!
Base stats:
Str 12
Dex 16
Con 14
Int 13
Wis 10
Char 14
Class level progression:
Level 1: Rouge 1(Favored class with the +1/6 rouge talent per level option)
Level 2: Rouge 2
Level 3: Rouge 3
Level 4: Rouge 4
Level 5: Rouge 5
Level 6: Rouge 6
Level 7: Mysterious Stranger 1
Feats/Rouge talents:
Level 1: Base feats for rouge + Magic Tail 1
Level 2: Rouge Talent: Finesse Rouge
Level 3: Magic Tail 2
Level 4: Underhanded (note 1)
Level 5: Magic Tail 3
Level 6: Two Rouge Talents: Firearms Training(note 2) and Grit(note 3)
Level 7: Magic Tail 4
Note 1: Underhanded* (Ex): A rogue with this talent gains a +4 circumstance bonus on all Sleight of Hand checks made to conceal a weapon. Furthermore, if she makes a sneak attack during the surprise round using a concealed weapon that her opponent didn’t know about, she does not have to roll sneak attack damage, and the sneak attack deals maximum damage. A rogue can only use the underhanded talent a number of times per day equal to her Charisma modifier (minimum 0). With this build I can do this 2 times a day. (Ultimate Combat p.70)
Note 2: Firearm Training (Ex): A rogue with this talent gains Exotic Weapon Proficiency (firearms). (Ultimate Combat p.69)
Note 3: Grit (Ex): A rogue with this talent gains the Amateur
Gunslinger feat and one grit feat of her choice. She must
fulfill the prerequisites of the grit feat in order to choose
it. A rogue must have the firearm training talent before
choosing this one.(Ultimate Combat p.69)
For This one I chose Extra Grit.
Amateur Gunslinger (Combat)
Although you are not a gunslinger, you have and can use grit.
Prerequisite: You have no levels in a class that has the grit class feature.
Benefit: You gain a small amount of grit and the ability to perform a single 1st-level deed from the gunslinger deed class feature. At the start of the day, you gain 1 grit point, though throughout the day you can gain grit points up to a maximum of your Wisdom modifier (minimum 1). You can regain grit using the rules for the gunslinger’s grit class feature (see page 9). You can spend this grit to perform the 1st-level deed you chose upon taking this feat, and any other deed you have gained through feats or magic items.
Special: If you gain levels in a class that grants the grit class feature, you can immediately trade this feat for the Extra Grit feat.
The Deed I am looking at getting is Up close and deadly.
Up Close and Deadly (Ex): At 1st level, when the pistolero hits a target with a one-handed firearm that is not making a scatter shot, she can spend 1 grit point to deal 1d6 points of extra damage on a hit. If she misses with the attack, she grazes the target, dealing half the extra damage anyway. This is precision damage and is not multiplied if the attack is a critical hit. This precision damage increases to 2d6 at 5th level, to 3d6 at 10th level, to 4d6 at 15th level, and to 5d6 at 20th level. This precision damage stacks with sneak attack and other forms of precision damage. This deed replaces the deadeye deed.
End Result a level 7 kitsune who can apply 1d8+20 points of damage on a sneak attack on a surprise round and manage to conceal my gun. Magic Tail 4 makes me invisible for 7 minutes. Therefore this can get me close enough to sneak attack with a firearm. And have a daily allotment of 4 grit.
Questions
1. Does Flat-Foot AC stack with Touch AC?
2. Is this PFS legal?
3. If I decide to pick up two weapon fighting later how would that effect the damage?
4. Does the deed in the Amateur Gunslinger feat increase in levels?
5. What do you guys think?
KingOfAnything
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Unfortunately,Up Close and Deadly is not a valid deed choice for the Amateur Gunslinger feat. It is not from the Gunslinger deed list, it is from the Pistolero archetype.
Is there a particular reason you are using two talents to get Grit/weapon proficiency a level before you get both by taking a level of gunslinger? You can't purchase a firearm unless you have Gunsmithing or are a gunslinger in any case.
Rednaz the lost
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Unfortunately,Up Close and Deadly is not a valid deed choice for the Amateur Gunslinger feat. It is not from the Gunslinger deed list, it is from the Pistolero archetype.
Is there a particular reason you are using two talents to get Grit/weapon proficiency a level before you get both by taking a level of gunslinger? You can't purchase a firearm unless you have Gunsmithing or are a gunslinger in any case.
Where is that at? I don't see that anywhere in the Ultimate Combat. Is it errata somewhere?
Kalindlara
Contributor
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KingOfAnything wrote:Where is that at? I don't see that anywhere in the Ultimate Combat. Is it errata somewhere?Unfortunately,Up Close and Deadly is not a valid deed choice for the Amateur Gunslinger feat. It is not from the Gunslinger deed list, it is from the Pistolero archetype.
Is there a particular reason you are using two talents to get Grit/weapon proficiency a level before you get both by taking a level of gunslinger? You can't purchase a firearm unless you have Gunsmithing or are a gunslinger in any case.
The purchase restriction applies to Pathfinder Society characters; if this isn't for PFS, you're fine. ^_^
Rednaz the lost
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If you're talking about the Deed there's a FAQ that says options for Archetypes are limited to those archetypes and can't be picked up by things that grant the base option. So since the feat lets you pick a deed it's the normal list, not any archetypes list.
If that was the case, What deeds can I go for?
Deadeye, Quick clear, or gunslingers dodge?