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I recently got it in my head to compare the amount of content released by Paizo for Pathfinder (both PFRPG and 3.5e) and the content released by Wizards of the Coast for 3.0 and 3.5.
By my count (including Forgotten Realms material, but not adventures or the 3.5 reprints of the core rulebooks) WotC released 14,770 pages of material for 3e. Meanwhile, Paizo has released 13,665 pages (also not including adventures, or the reprint of the campaign setting).
This means that by the end of this year, there will be more Pathfinder RPG content than D&D 3e content!
While WotC produced content faster (seven years, from 2000 to 2007) Paizo is not that far behind in rate of release (nine years, from 2007 to 2016).
While WotC produced other content including the Eberron campaign setting and related products, Paizo has produced far more adventures. If we start including adventures, Pathfinder might have already well passed 3e...
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Please note that between 2007 and August 2009, Paizo was releasing 3.5 material under the Pathfinder brand—the Core Rulebook was not introduced until 2009.
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Please note that between 2007 and August 2009, Paizo was releasing 3.5 material under the Pathfinder brand—the Core Rulebook was not introduced until 2009.
I mention that in my post.
Since I'm counting both 3.0e and 3.5e (excluding the 3.5e Core rulebooks) I'm also counting both the 3.5e and PFRPG Paizo content. But also excluding the Pathfinder Campaign Setting product in favour of the Inner Sea World Guide, since that was a direct reprint.
I don't recall much reprinted material from Paizo after the 3e -> PFRPG conversion, owing to the backwards comparability. Arguably far less than WotC, which reprinted and converted a lot of races, prestige classes, and feats.
Counting material only once, the WotC number would probably actually be smaller, likely by several hundred pages, Psionics Handbooks and all.
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You should also be counting Eberron books and outliers like Ghostwalk, for example.
Furthermore, Wizards of the Coast published D&D Third Edition material from 2000 to 2008, for a period of 8 years. If you include the Third Edition material by Paizo, their material was published from 2007 to 2016, a period of almost 9 years, so nothing out of the ordinary.
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You should also be counting Eberron books and outliers like Ghostwalk, for example.
Furthermore, Wizards of the Coast published D&D Third Edition material from 2000 to 2008, for a period of 8 years. If you include the Third Edition material by Paizo, their material was published from 2007 to 2016, a period of almost 9 years, so nothing out of the ordinary.
I believe I included Ghostwalk and related side projects (Incarnum, Tome of Battle, etc). Again, everything but Eberron.
Eberron seemed like a stretch as Paizo only has the one setting. Omitting setting material would be one way to get a count, but Golarion is so much more important to PF than the Realms was to WotC in 3e (and it'd be a pain going through every Player Companion and Setting book and deciding if it was "generic" enough).As for dates, WotC didn't really publish much actual 3e books between the end of 2007 and June of 2008. There was a lot of filler and preview books. Counting that content as part of 3e would be like counting the Pathfinder Beta.
I recently got it in my head to compare the amount of content released by Paizo for Pathfinder (both PFRPG and 3.5e) and the content released by Wizards of the Coast for 3.0 and 3.5.
By my count (including Forgotten Realms material, but not adventures or the 3.5 reprints of the core rulebooks) WotC released 14,770 pages of material for 3e. Meanwhile, Paizo has released 13,665 pages (also not including adventures, or the reprint of the campaign setting).
This means that by the end of this year, there will be more Pathfinder RPG content than D&D 3e content!While WotC produced content faster (seven years, from 2000 to 2007) Paizo is not that far behind in rate of release (nine years, from 2007 to 2016).
While WotC produced other content including the Eberron campaign setting and related products, Paizo has produced far more adventures. If we start including adventures, Pathfinder might have already well passed 3e...
...You have a lot of time on your hands I am guessing.
Not to be insulting...I once figured out how much I have spent on PF books...so who am I to judge.
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Yay more options and material and flavor?!
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Are you counting Dragon and Dungeon magazines?
As someone who has complete 3e runs of each... that's a lot of pages. ^_^
Since the magazines could go either way, I decided to leave them out.
I'm not sure how I would split the Paizo stuff. I'd say it's still 3.5 material, tied to the Realms and Eberron. Pathfinder is Pathfinder.
The Paizo magazines were official but licenced. Counting them opens up a bunch of similar material, such as the 3.5e Dragonlance and Ravenloft lines. Or the Pathfinder content in the back of the Dynamite comics.
...You have a lot of time on your hands I am guessing.
Not to be insulting...I once figured out how much I have spent on PF books...so who am I to judge.
It didn't take as long as one might think.
Paizo.com has counts of Paizo's books, so I just had to throw numbers in spreadsheets (after omitting map packs and such). And Wikipedia had most of the D&D number so I could just cut-and-paste and HTML table into a spreadsheet, clean things up, then do a total.
A couple hours at most while Critical Roll was running away in my other monitor.
I was doing 2e as well, but that took longer since the page numbers were absent so I couldn't just cut-and-paste an HTML table into a spreadsheet.
I dunno, a lot of third-party 3/3.5 stuff produced under license really should count, since it was for the intellectual property of D&D which often meant interlinking events via the old 2nd edition ties between campaign settings. Only Dark Sun (which basically disappeared until 4th Ed) and Birthright (which is, sadly, gone as far as I can tell) really felt self-contained.
Ravenloft and Dragonlance were both quintessentially D&D settings, and produced not under the OGL but specific licensing, including the use of "Product identity" critters like Illithids in the 'Loft.
If you wish to simply compare Paizo and WotC page counts, that's one thing, but the game system's borders seem rather flexible.
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So for those of us like myself who still use 3.5 content on a regular basis, we've nearly doubled our pool of available resources. I consider this a good thing.