retraining ? about eldritch scion


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would i need to find a magus or a bloodrager to retrain a bloodline i have because of eldritch scion and the cost would only be 350gp i think.


still looking for an answer need to know for my game tomorrow.


ask your GM, retraining is optional rule in the Ul Camp book. your GM may not even allow retraining. Some gm's require to find some one of higher level to teach you, others do not. I believe the rules say you can do it your self but it take longer to do, thus costing more money.


it is allowed but i need to find a trainer to retrain the ability since magus only shows retraining for magus arcana and not for bloodlines i took the eldritch scion archetype which gave me a bloodline if i use arcane pool to use it. so not sure if i need a eldritch scion magus or a bloodrager to retrain my bloodline.


also right now our group has base of operations and housing inside a big metropolis of about 30k people.


that again is your GM call only he can answer it, you are not going to find any official ruling on this, because there is none. all the rules state is you can retraining a class ability, bloodlines is one of you new class ability from archtype, just as a Scorc can retrain it. see their section of retraining on what must be done to retrain bloodline. The rules don't get into the level of detail you are looking for they just say

"less stated otherwise, retraining costs gp equal to 10 × your level × the number of days required to retrain. This is normally paid in full at the start of the retraining period, but the GM might allow you to divide these payments over multiple days. At the GM's discretion, this training cost could be up to 50% higher or lower, depending on situational factors within the settlement—availability of trainers, local economy, cost of materials, and so on.

Some retraining options require you to work with a trainer. If no suitable trainer is available, the GM might allow you to retrain yourself by spending twice the normal time. Even if you train yourself, you must still pay the cost for training (though you don't double the cost as you do the time). Any option that requires a trainer also requires some kind of training facility for that activity."

basically your GM decide if you need a trainer or not and what type of trainer you need. IT could be another Magus, a Sorcerers or blood rager could do it, a expert NPC class that has knowledge bloodlines could teach you out a of book. This level of detail is out side of the rules and is left that way for gm to decide and for good reason. Some GM like to RP more then others, some just don't give a crap and just say pay the down time and cost, + 50% more because your in a town not a city because they don't want that level of detail in down time because it slows down their game.

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