Augment Summoning Question:


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So, I was reading through the Unchained Summoner spell list today for a Pathfinder Society concept today, and discovered an interesting little combination.

The second level spell "Summon Eidolon" seems to do just that, it summons your eidolon. Seeing as my character would be taking the Augment Summoning feat, I was wondering if there was an official ruling as to how the feat and spell worked together.

If they do, in fact, work, as I believe they do, I was wondering if you could use the feat with a wand version of Summon Eidolon.

If not, why?

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Thanks!


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Yes it does. Summon Eidolon always was benefitting from Augment summoning. It has all necessary keywords for it.


I don't think it always was. You have to summon it with a summoning spell. Augment summoning only works with things summoned by spells.

Summon eidolon however would work.

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Excellent, thank you.

However, in case I need to explain how it works, what exactly in the wording of the spell allows you to apply the feat to a wand version of the spell?

Being able to purchase a 50 charge wand of Summon Eidolon and being able to apply my Augment Summoning feat to it would be really cool, and it wouldn't require me to always have the thing lumbering about.


Sadly no. An FAQ covered that.

Quote:

Items as Spells: Does using a potion, scroll, staff, or wand count as "casting a spell" for purposes of feats and special abilities like Augment Summoning, Spell Focus, an evoker's ability to do extra damage with evocation spells, bloodline abilities, and so on?

No. Unless they specifically state otherwise, feats and abilities that modify spells you cast only affect actual spellcasting, not using magic items that emulate spellcasting or work like spellcasting.


Sorry, friend I seem to have pooped on your party twice.

However, you can still boost it if you cast the spell yourself.

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Ah, that's no good.

My plan to keep my eidolon at least somewhat of a secret has failed. Thanks all for the help! :)


Well, can I offer this instead?

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/tattoo-attunement

It does NOT say you have to summon it by spell. You could suck your own pet into you and summon out as a standard action with all his buffs still on him of there were any remaining...

Standard action summons but it comes out staggered and beside you.

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