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Okay so the first question I have is about the Buckler Gun. My Gunslinger has a level of Warpriest and can wear Bucklers with no problem and I want him to have one of these. The problem is I am having a hard time figuring out how his attack bonus for it should be calculated. Here is the text for the Buckler Gun:
The front of this buckler is fitted with a small, double-barreled gun that can be shot while wearing the buckler. Unlike with a double-barreled pistol, you can only shoot one barrel at a time.
You must remove the buckler to reload the gun. Each barrel of a buckler gun uses a bullet and 1 dose of black powder or single alchemical cartridge as ammunition. Because of its awkward construction, a buckler gun is always considered an off-handed weapon.
Since it says it is always considered an off-hand weapon would it always a penalty even if you were just firing it that round? I believe that I can shoot it normally if that is all I am doing, but I want to check and make sure. That whole "always considered an off-handed" thing just has me a little confused.
Also I have a feat question. On d20pfsrd looking up the feats it has this little bit at the bottom:
* This is a combat feat and can be selected as a fighter or gunslinger bonus feat.
And Weapon Specialization has the asterisk next to it. Here is just a link to the feat tree:
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/feat-tree
But I have been told that I can not take Weapon Specialization as a bonus Feat for my Gunslinger. Is that true or can I actually take it? It would seem from the stuff in the link that I can. Just want to make sure on this as I am close to my first Bonus Feat and want to take that feat if I can.
JUST FOR CLARIFICATION I AM ASKING IF THAT ASTERISK (*) ON PFSRD'S FEAT TREE PAGE THAT I LINKED MEANS THAT WEAPON SPECIALIZATION COUNTS AS A FEAT A GUNSLINGER CAN TAKE AS IT SAYS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE OR IT IS JUST AN ERROR. I AM NOT TRYING TO USE MY ONE WARRIEST LEVEL TO TRY AND GET A FEAT. I AM ONLY TALKING ABOUT MY GUNSLINGER BONUS FEATS.
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To answer the Weapon Specialization question, no a Gunslinger / Warpriest cannot take it. One of the requirements is to be a 4th level fighter. While you can take it as a bonus Gunslinger feat, you still need to have at least four levels of the Fighter class to do so.
I do not like to sound disagreeable but a warpriest can take it if he is at least a 4th level warpriest as one of his bonus feats as a warpriest's bonus feats could his warpriest level as fighter level. that i know for a fact as it is written in the rules. but as a gunslinger I am unsure because it is a little oddly stated where I have referenced. if the gunslinger can not take it then they need to make an errata to the pfsrd to avoid this sort of confusion. anyway can i get another conformation that a gunslinger can not take this one feat?
Bonus Feats: At 4th level, and every four levels thereafter, a gunslinger gains a bonus feat in addition to those gained by normal advancement. These bonus feats must be combat or grit feats.
Bonus Feats: At 3rd level and every 3 levels thereafter, a warpriest gains a bonus feat in addition to those gained from normal advancement. These bonus feats must be selected from those listed as combat feats. The warpriest must meet the prerequisites for these feats, but he treats his warpriest level as his base attack bonus (in addition to base attack bonuses gained from other classes and Hit Dice) for the purpose of qualifying for these feats. Finally, for the purposes of these feats, the warpriest can select feats that have a minimum number of fighter levels as a prerequisite, treating his warpriest level as his fighter level.
Seems pretty clear to me.
Warpriest bonus feats allow for feats that have a fighter level prereq, Gunslinger bonus feats do not.
No clarification needed.
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Bonus Feats: At 4th level, and every four levels thereafter, a gunslinger gains a bonus feat in addition to those gained by normal advancement. These bonus feats must be combat or grit feats.Bonus Feats: At 3rd level and every 3 levels thereafter, a warpriest gains a bonus feat in addition to those gained from normal advancement. These bonus feats must be selected from those listed as combat feats. The warpriest must meet the prerequisites for these feats, but he treats his warpriest level as his base attack bonus (in addition to base attack bonuses gained from other classes and Hit Dice) for the purpose of qualifying for these feats. Finally, for the purposes of these feats, the warpriest can select feats that have a minimum number of fighter levels as a prerequisite, treating his warpriest level as his fighter level.Seems pretty clear to me.
Warpriest bonus feats allow for feats that have a fighter level prereq, Gunslinger bonus feats do not.
No clarification needed.
Okay, so that asterisk (*) that is on the feat tree on pfsrd is just wrong then. Okay. Now I just need to figure out what the heck I need to do for the Buckler Gun.
Okay, so that asterisk (*) that is on the feat tree on pfsrd is just wrong then. Okay.
It's not wrong, it's simply that you don't meet the prerequisites. You must still meet the prerequisites for the combat feat to take it.
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It's not wrong, it's simply that you don't meet the prerequisites. You must still meet the prerequisites for the combat feat to take it.
Okay, so that asterisk (*) that is on the feat tree on pfsrd is just wrong then. Okay.
But it says this:
* This is a combat feat and can be selected as a fighter or gunslinger bonus feat.
It specifically says that this * means you can take it as a Gunslinger Bonus Feat. And Weapon Specialization is one of those feats on the list that have it. The asterisk says that it should be able to do it. Again here is the link:
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/feat-tree
Is this mistaken and needs an errata or does it count?
Also still looking for a ruling on the Buckler Gun.
* This is a combat feat and can be selected as a fighter or gunslinger bonus feat.
Means either, not both. Again, you must meet the prerequisites, which for a gunslinger, you don't.
As for the buckler gun, it's been stated somewhere that that was a mistake.
Basically, there is no penalty for "always being an off-handed" weapon, besides the fact that of you TWF, the buckler gun must be the off-hand weapon, I believe.
But it says this:
* This is a combat feat and can be selected as a fighter or gunslinger bonus feat.
And you can, if you meet the prerequisites.
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* This is a combat feat and can be selected as a fighter or gunslinger bonus feat.Means either, not both. Again, you must meet the prerequisites, which for a gunslinger, you don't.
As for the buckler gun, it's been stated somewhere that that was a mistake.
Basically, there is no penalty for "always being an off-handed" weapon, besides the fact that of you TWF, the buckler gun must be the off-hand weapon, I believe.
Okay so why is it there then? Weapon Specialization does not need it then. It becomes superfluous if it does not mean you can take it as one of your Gunslinger Bonus Feats. Why is it there? To tell you you can take this Fighter only feat if you are a Fighter or a Fighter under special occasions because we want to put an asterisk next to it? It just does not make any sense to me this way. But if it be so then I guess that it is there for no reason and needs an errata. Thanks.
Then why is it there at all? The asterisk is superfluous then. It needs an errata at the very least if it is a no go since it seems counter intuitive.
The asterisk tells you that is it a combat feat, and the bonus feat features of fighters and gunslingers are restricted to being combat feats (gunslingers can also take grit feats with their bonus feats).
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Then why is it there at all? The asterisk is superfluous then. It needs an errata at the very least if it is a no go since it seems counter intuitive.The asterisk tells you that is it a combat feat, and the bonus feat features of fighters and gunslingers are restricted to being combat feats (gunslingers can also take grit feats with their bonus feats).
But there is the C that designates it a Combat feat as well. It is just not needed and confusing otherwise. They just really need to change it I guess.