About incorporeal phantoms , aid another and flanking.


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Ok so the ectoplasmic form of the phantom is easy enough to understand , but the incorporeal one brings questions to me.

First , i assume you cant flank while your phantom is in incorporeal form since the phantom cant attack the enemy and thus doesnt threaten him?

Now , when it comes to aid another , can a phantom in incorporeal form do it?

And a bonus question , how does a incorporeal phantom and magic items work? Can he equip them normally , cant he?

Quote:
Fully manifested phantoms can wear armor and use items (though not wield weapons) appropriate to their forms. Any items worn, carried, or held by a phantom are dropped when the phantom returns to the spiritualist’s consciousness, and must be retrieved and donned anew if the phantom wishes to use them when it fully manifests in the future.

That part makes me wonder if there is a trick to this or not.

All i got from this is that , it can use items , since incorporeal is a kind of full manifestation and that killing a phantom wont make him drop anything , since he is tossed back into the other plane , not brought back to the spiritualists mind.


So nobody has anything to add about this?

Dark Archive

Necro-bump, would also like to know. If a fully manifested ectoplasmic phantom wears magic items and then turns incorporeal, does he keep the magic items (like dust form and sonic form), or do they fall to the ground?

Sovereign Court

I don't think the phantom can hold on to the items unless they're ghost touch items. So they'd just slip through his hands and fall to the group.

As for the flanking thing, I think it makes sense to compare it to unarmed strikes. If you have the Improved Unarmed Strike feat you're considered "armed" with unarmed strikes and can make attacks of opportunity with them. Likewise, with a held charge of a touch spell you're considered armed.

So an incorporeal phantom wouldn't normally be flanking, but he would if he was holding the charge for a spell.

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