Kobold Style (kobold Flood), what does it do?


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Kobold flood is the third step in the Kobold Style feat tree and it allows, as a grapple action, to mount a prone enemy which allows you to move into the enemy's square and prevents the target from standing up without succeeding a grapple check. But from what I understand, it would require the enemy to succeed a grapple check to stand up from a normal grapple, so I don't understand this feat, can some one show me what im missing?

As always, thanks in advance.


Normally, while an enemy cannot move away from you during a grapple, they can still stand up from being prone or become prone.

The feat allows you to prevent them from simply taking a move action to stand, instead requiring them to make a grapple check to do so.


Why do this instead of pinning them? Pinned states they cant move, Standing up is moving... so it seems useless, unless we arnt counting standing up as moving which is ridiculous.


Because pinning them requires multiple rounds and does not give them the prone condition.


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Because you can combine it with Monk of the Iron Mountain to sit on top of an enemy indefinitely.


Mahtobedis wrote:
Because pinning them requires multiple rounds and does not give them the prone condition.

Ah for some reason i didn't think of pin requiring multiple rounds, thanks for the reminder.


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Secret Wizard wrote:
Because you can combine it with Monk of the Iron Mountain to sit on top of an enemy indefinitely.

Oh my sweet kobold pantheon this is amazing....


The Archive wrote:

Normally, while an enemy cannot move away from you during a grapple, they can still stand up from being prone or become prone.

Revisiting this, the Basic Grappled condition says you can't move, so why can they stand up?

*Edit* Aw never mind, RAW standing up isn't moving (which is dumb) its just a move action, though i find the logic on it ridiculous its the way it is.


Wow this kobold style tree.

Might actually be good for a rogue as well. The imagery of a kobold assassin slowly making his way through a house, mounting people in his surprise round and then shanking them to death before proceeding to the next encounter.

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