How could you make the Evangelist, Exalted and Sentinel prestige classes more viable

[icantfallasleep]

The 3 prestige classes Evangelist, Exalted and Sentinel are packed full of flavor. Depending on your deity you get appropriate boons and the obediences you perform are great for roleplay.

However I don't see many people or anybody at all willing to give up class abilities for prestige class abilities.

These prestige classes cannot be made into archetypes unless someone went through the trouble of creating an archetype for every possible class since the archetype would have to replace class abilities in order to be appropriate. However Archetypes are widely used in many builds and this would fit well if it were possible.

Would there be another way to make these more viable options?

[Hrothdane]

The great thing about Evangelist is that you DONT have to give up class abilities (well, you lose one level of progression, but still).

[icantfallasleep]

I never even noticed!!

I wish Exalted ans Sentinel did the same thing but at the very least for flavor, it's nice that anybody and any class can dive just a bit more into their faith.

[Ciaran Barnes]

I'm unfamiliar with these but I looked them over online. What exactly do you think these are missing to be "viable". I didn't delve into the Deific Obedience feat, but I don't see the problem.

[Cheapy]

Evangelist is consistently regarded as one of the strongest, if not the strongest, PrCs in the game.

So I don't think much needs to be done for that one at least.

[icantfallasleep]

Yeah my bad everyone. I was treating them as regular prestige classes that override your original class abilities. Until Aligned Class was pointed out that is.

I had prematurely thought that these were flavor without much substance, but I concur, that because of Aligned Class, Evangelist is indeed a very viable option if you weight your losses and gains carefully.

That being said, I don't see prestige classes being used much, but I was very interested in the boons and the roleplay aspects of Evangelist, Exalted and Sentinel. I guess I was trying to see how to retrofit boons and obediences into existing classes without costing as much of the negatives you'd get from a prestige class (Evangelist excluded).

[icantfallasleep]

EDIT: I just read Deific Obedience and that answers my concerns.

Sorry guys for the waste of time. DERP!

[LazarX]

icantfallasleep wrote:

Yeah my bad everyone. I was treating them as regular prestige classes that override your original class abilities. Until Aligned Class was pointed out that is.

I had prematurely thought that these were flavor without much substance, but I concur, that because of Aligned Class, Evangelist is indeed a very viable option if you weight your losses and gains carefully.

That being said, I don't see prestige classes being used much, but I was very interested in the boons and the roleplay aspects of Evangelist, Exalted and Sentinel. I guess I was trying to see how to retrofit boons and obediences into existing classes without costing as much of the negatives you'd get from a prestige class (Evangelist excluded).

You don't see them "used much" or more accurately talked about much here, because the unwritten rule is if it's not the most powerful option for your character it's garbage.

I played a Wizard who went RiftWarden.. yes she lost caster levels... but she was effective in the spells she did cast.