Ki arrow / monk and feat related abilities


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Ki arrow:
You imbue an arrow with your power and throw it at a target up to 100 feet away. Make a ranged attack roll. If it hits, the target takes damage from the arrow as if you had hit it with a single unarmed strike (including your Strength bonus).

If you are a monk/wizard (why else would you take this spell?) can you apply monk stuff to the arrow- stunning fist, scorpion/medusa/etc strike? How about feat related stuff- Power attack? if you have weapon focus (unarmed) do you still get the +1?

With the proper build you could get all Street Fighter with this spell- I think the verbal component is screaming "Haaaaadokken!!!"

Scarab Sages

The spell exists solely for use as a Qinggong Ki power. It is a free action attack granted by the standard action of casting the spell. That prevents you from using it with any other ability that modifies attacks. This is not an unarmed strike, despite it doing damage as an unarmed strike, so you can't use stunning fist, or anything else that requires an unarmed attack.


OK. thanks. I don't buy that it's 'solely for qi gung ki power' tho. It may be the most reasonable use for it, but i came across it because i decided to try a monk/sorc build. Anyone with access to wizard spell lists could take it.
that char cast the spell like a sorcerer, but he gets the unarmed damage because of the spell effect.

I guess the phrase is 'takes damage from the arrow as if you had hit it with a single unarmed strike' - so any effects that derive from an unarmed attack would not count - so no elemental stunning killing strike (boo hoo) but what about effects that modify the attack/damage. Power attack? Arcane strike is a swift action, which would give you time to use that ability if allowable.

Scarab Sages

geekgumbo wrote:

OK. thanks. I don't buy that it's 'solely for qi gung ki power' tho. It may be the most reasonable use for it, but i came across it because i decided to try a monk/sorc build. Anyone with access to wizard spell lists could take it.

that char cast the spell like a sorcerer, but he gets the unarmed damage because of the spell effect.

I guess the phrase is 'takes damage from the arrow as if you had hit it with a single unarmed strike' - so any effects that derive from an unarmed attack would not count - so no elemental stunning killing strike (boo hoo) but what about effects that modify the attack/damage. Power attack? Arcane strike is a swift action, which would give you time to use that ability if allowable.

Arcane Strike would work with it. Power Attack wouldn't, as it's a ranged attack. Deadly Aim would work instead though.

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