Kineticist and Feats

[All Seeing Archer]

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Every wild talent has an effective spell level. A kineticist can always select 1st-level wild talents, but she can select a wild talent of a higher level only if her kineticist level is at least double the wild talent's effective spell level. Kinetic blast and defense wild talents are always considered to have an effective spell level equal to 1/2 the kineticist's class level (to a maximum effective spell level of 9th at kineticist level 18th).

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Elemental Focus

Your spells of a certain element are more difficult to resist.

Benefit: Choose one energy type (acid, cold, electricity, or fire). Add +1 to the Difficulty Class for all saving throws against spells that deal damage of the energy type you select.

Special: You can gain this feat multiple times. Its effects do not stack. Each time you take this feat, it applies to a new energy type.

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Greater Elemental Focus

Choose an energy type to which you have already applied the Elemental Focus feat. Any spells you cast of this energy type are very hard to resist.

Prerequisite: Elemental Focus.

Benefit: Add +1 to the Difficulty Class for all saving throws against spells that deal damage of the energy type you select. This bonus stacks with the bonus from Elemental Focus.

Special: You can gain this feat multiple times. Its effects do not stack. Each time you take this feat, it applies to a new energy type to which you have already applied the Elemental Focus feat.

Since a Kineticist's ability count as having a "spell level," could they hypothetically take the Elemental Focus and Greater Elemental Focus feats (for Electric, Fire, and Cold, specifically)?

I lean towards yes, they can, personally.

[Vanykrye]

Well, this very same question was asked in 2010 - sorcerer bloodline SLAs instead of the Kineticist's blast SLA, but it's the same question. I haven't read the whole thing yet to see if there's anything resembling an answer.

Edit: And now that I have read it, I am reminded of Ability Focus, which ups the DC of a specific SLA by +1. By RAW, that would seem to be your answer. There isn't a Greater version of that feat, but I think there ought to be. By "it's your campaign, house rule away" logic, I don't think what you're suggesting is unreasonable.

[KingOfAnything]

Kineticists use spell-like abilities, not spells. That said, it's a reasonable house rule to allow the feats.

[Chess Pwn]

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[Chess Pwn]

KingOfAnything wrote:

Kineticists use spell-like abilities, not spells. That said, it's a reasonable house rule to allow the feats.

But SLA are treated as spells for many/most/some things. This is something, that very easily is allowed and "intended" since SLA are like spells and there are some creatures that have done it for other racial SLA