| ohako |
[GOOFY 'EXISTENCE OF SEX' WARNING À LA THIS AMERICAN LIFE]
Charming: Blessed with good looks, you’ve come to depend on the fact that others find you attractive. You gain a +1 trait bonus when you use Bluff or Diplomacy on a character that is (or could be) sexually attracted to you, and a +1 trait bonus to the save DC of any language-dependent spell you cast on such characters or creatures.
Overwhelming Beauty: Your wiles are particularly potent against people who share a race with you, as your beauty is often held up as a symbol of perfection. The DC of your mind-affecting effects increases by 1 against creatures that have at least one of the same subtypes as you.
There's also the obedience boons for both Calistria and Arshea, which I don't need to get in to.
Oh! Also the seducer's eyes spell, and the super-overpriced headband of seduction.
Question 1: If you have both traits, would the DC boosters stack if applicable?
So, let's say you have a grab-bag of these effects, and you're also a competent shapeshifter (alter self, disguise self, both, you're a doppelgänger, etc.) So you don't share a subtype with a target, or your natural form isn't one that's naturally attractive to your target.
Question 2: If you're in an, let's say 'applicable' shape, would you then get these sorts of bonuses?
Question 3: What about if you successfully pull off an unnatural lust spell?
Question 4: Eh, more of a stupid advice question. Any way anyone can think of to pull off seducer's eyes on a recalcitrant wand (via Use Magic Device)?
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What kind of wand are you talking about, exactly? Hmmmm?
| Torbyne |
Q1: yes, those two should stack as they affect different things which just may both apply to the same spell or ability.
Q2: in PFS you need something that grants you the subtype of the shape you are in to gain the benefits of OB. Charming applies in any situation where the GM rules it applicable. At a home game it will all come down to a talk between you and your GM.
Q3: What about it? the spell clearly states how it functions. I am not sure what you are trying to find out here...
Q4: If the wand if sentient and your GM rules it. dont expect to fly in PFS.
I dont think you will find many bestiary entries with detailed lists of mating habits or attractiveness values, most the ambiguity of your questions revolve around what race you appear as and what could be sexually attracted to you. This is always be a sit down talk with the GM.
| ohako |
Q3: What about it? the spell clearly states how it functions. I am not sure what you are trying to find out here..
Let's say a Charming but impossible sorcerer casts unnatural lust on a robot, with the object of affection being the sorcerer. Does the sorcerer gain the bonus from Charming?
| Torbyne |
Torbyne wrote:Q3: What about it? the spell clearly states how it functions. I am not sure what you are trying to find out here..Let's say a Charming but impossible sorcerer casts unnatural lust on a robot, with the object of affection being the sorcerer. Does the sorcerer gain the bonus from Charming?
You might be able to convince your GM depending on setting but the default would be:
1. The impossible bloodline allows you to target a robot with the spell.
2. The robot would not normally be attracted to you and thus receives the +4 bonus as dictated by the spell
3. A robot is not normally attracted to you and thus does not trigger Charming. in this case the robot makes the save against being attracted to you and is not attracted to you before the save is made.
As a side note, good luck surviving the "gentle" affections of a 20 ton death-bot.
| ohako |
As a side note, good luck surviving the "gentle" affections of a 20 ton death-bot.
Eh, beats the lasers and chainsaws side of things. Nothing an impossible sorcerer can't handle.
So, if a creature fails its save against unnatural lust, then it should also be affected by your trait or obedience or what have you. Right?
| Torbyne |
Torbyne wrote:As a side note, good luck surviving the "gentle" affections of a 20 ton death-bot.Eh, beats the lasers and chainsaws side of things. Nothing an impossible sorcerer can't handle.
So, if a creature fails its save against unnatural lust, then it should also be affected by your trait or obedience or what have you. Right?
The spell only lasts one round and dictates what the subject does during that round... i am not sure how it could apply except if you were to swift action quicken spell another save against it? but if you pulled it off, sure, for that round, after you have spent your standard action, you should gain a +1 to the save. likewise for other spells that rely on attitude, the target would likely count as friendly towards you during that round.
| ohako |
As those abilities seem to be purely physical, would a shapeshifter (kitsune with appropriate feat), owner of hat o disguise, etc, get those bonuses essentially free if they take a form with those traits?
I doubt it. If the spell doesn't grant it, you don't get it. Which is weird, because a kitsune rocking Realistic Likeness can get a +10 to Disguise himself as a person with the Overwhelming Beauty trait, but they don't get Overwhelming Beauty themselves.