I'm in a situation here.
A natural attack (appendage with 20ft reach), something akin to a tentacle, has grappled the sorceress.
The fighter declares 'i grapple the tentacle, it can't attack anymore', opposed to 'i use str to break her free'
It's an appendage, and not the actual creature.
How does this work?
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Sometimes the appendage is big enough to be considered a creature on its own, or even an object with specific traits (like an hydra's neck and head).
The closest example I can think of right now is a roper strand, which is pretty close to the tentacle-thing discussed.
It could be attacked, severed, sundered, broken (treating it like a lenght of chain, maybe), but probably not grappled following the nowmal rules. The sheer size and shape of the thing won't allow it.
If the fighter wants just to block further attacks, it could be grabbed (grappled, using the usual rules) to hinder further actions and even pinned, but aside from that nothing more - so no move, damage, or tied up.
Mostly GM's call, with some on the fly modifiers to apply, and some limitations compared to a more standard situation, but still doable.
The appendage is a slick bloody human entrail....
I'm in a situation here.
A natural attack (appendage with 20ft reach), something akin to a tentacle, has grappled the sorceress.
The fighter declares 'i grapple the tentacle, it can't attack anymore', opposed to 'i use str to break her free'It's an appendage, and not the actual creature.
How does this work?
Even if the tentacle were considered a creature on its own the grappled condition does not prevent you from attacking. It gives you a -2 on all attacks and you can't use anything that requires two hands to attacks but within those restrictions and penalties you can even perform a full attack. So the tentacle can still attack even if she grapples it.
By the rules, you cannot individually target the tentacle of a creature. You must target the creature.
Ergo, you cannot grapple the tentacle. You can't even specifically attack the tentacle. By the rules, if a creature with reach attacks you, you can't even strike it's limb without the use of a readied action and the feat Strike Back.
In this specific case I would treat it as the fighter joining the grapple with the sorcerer.
Multiple Creatures: Multiple creatures can attempt to grapple one target. The creature that first initiates the grapple is the only one that makes a check, with a +2 bonus for each creature that assists in the grapple (using the Aid Another action). Multiple creatures can also assist another creature in breaking free from a grapple, with each creature that assists (using the Aid Another action) granting a +2 bonus on the grappled creature's combat maneuver check.
@ kyrt-ryder:
True, but still, the sorceress being grappled by a tentacle like appendage and her throat being hugged from the inside, leaves me with the distinct image of [insert the obvious].
If people want to know the monster:
Module "Hangman's Noose"
Monster: Gutdragging Lurcher.
It's really gross, but great for horror or twisted settings.
@ Claxon:
Thanks for explaining.
I couldn't find that, could you link me?
By RAW you can't. In fact without the strike back feat you can't even attack a limb or weapon with reach unless you move to a position where you threaten the squares the creature occupies.
But in my opinion as a GM I'd probably allow it. Particularly if there is some effect preventing the fighter from closing with the base of the creature. The fighter could ready an action (to either strike back or grapple). And if the fighter succeeds on the grapple it would pull the creature to an adjacent position.
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As Maezer says, by RAW you cannot grapple a specific appendage, regardless of shape or size. However, personally I think it is entirely reasonable to pin down a specific tentacle (or human entrails, this monster sounds cool) and would allow it, although I would only allow them to pull the creature closer if they used a reposition maneuver.
Carl, it is a cool horror monster, plus it has reach 20 with a full attack of 4 entrails.
The sorceress' player called it gross, so that's a confirmation in itself.
Nothing was as horrific as my colossal undead bleeding horror platypus. When an undead platypus dripping with blood and gore that's the size of Zeus comes out of the ocean and creates a blood tornado on the boat, that's when you know the GM wants you to die by hilarity.