Paizo, Please Make A Book Of Archetype Support


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There are a lot of archetypes that take the base class in an unusual direction. Do not get me wrong, I do love what you are at least trying to do. The problem is that these archetypes lack support for what they are trying to do. While a lot of this support is easy to house rule in, there a lot of use who only play PFS, for what ever reason. I would really appreciate if you would produce a book, of at least Player's Companion size, that gives the missing support officially. I do realize that part of the problem with producing such a book is that the whole thing would need to be allowed in PFS or the intent for that part is largely lost. I would like to thank any official who reads this and considers my suggestion.

Grand Lodge

The other part in producing the book you want is that you need to be a lot more precise in both describing the problem you perceive and the solution you want from it.

If your problem is that the archetype you want is not allowed in PFS play, that's a matter you need to take up with campaign management, not publication.

Keep in mind that if campaign management bans a mechanic, there's usually very good reason to do so. PFS is used to sell books, and the last thing they want to do, is to give you reasons not to buy them.

Compared to past network campaigns, such as RPGA's Living Greyhawk, or Living City, PFS is very quick to include new material.


To address the second part, no part of my petition has anything to due with something that I wish was allowed. I "merely" wish them produce official support, such as feats, for archetypes that take their class in an unusual direction. A lot of the support I wish that would exist is easy, at least in my mind, to house rule in. I just feel that there should exist official support for PFS, and those who would avoid creating such house rules.

Grand Lodge

Nohwear wrote:
To address the second part, no part of my petition has anything to due with something that I wish was allowed. I "merely" wish them produce official support, such as feats, for archetypes that take their class in an unusual direction. A lot of the support I wish that would exist is easy, at least in my mind, to house rule in. I just feel that there should exist official support for PFS, and those who would avoid creating such house rules.

Again, you're not defining the problem. There is no such thing as an archetype that won't find a feat that will help it. On the other hand designing feats that are ONLY usable by a class/archetype combination would add a factor of complication that doesn't yield a return that justifies making the feat table even more painful to navigate.


It would be helpful to have an example of a specific archetype you think doesn't have a lot of feat/equipment/trait/etc support, and what you think is missing.

The Exchange

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LazarX wrote:
Nohwear wrote:
To address the second part, no part of my petition has anything to due with something that I wish was allowed. I "merely" wish them produce official support, such as feats, for archetypes that take their class in an unusual direction. A lot of the support I wish that would exist is easy, at least in my mind, to house rule in. I just feel that there should exist official support for PFS, and those who would avoid creating such house rules.
Again, you're not defining the problem. There is no such thing as an archetype that won't find a feat that will help it. On the other hand designing feats that are ONLY usable by a class/archetype combination would add a factor of complication that doesn't yield a return that justifies making the feat table even more painful to navigate.

Rebounding Leap

Painful Anchor

The first feat supports the Dragoon archetype.

The second feat supports the Oath Against Fiends paladin.

I think their might be a couple more feats that DIRECTLY support an archetype. Not very many at all!

The problem the OP has is that there are lot of archetypes available. Some of them change the classes very dramatically and in some cases "lose" feat support. Take the Cult Leader (Mesmerist Archetype). It replaces the Painful Stare ability. This means all of the [Stare] feats no longer are available. In addition, the replacement of that ability, Fanatical Stare, has another issue. Fanatical Stare doesn't interact with the Bold Stare class feature. The archetype didn't give any additional Bold Stare options that would buff the ally.

Anyway, the OP would like feats and spells that support the unique features of the various archetypes that have been published.


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xevious573 wrote:
LazarX wrote:
Nohwear wrote:
To address the second part, no part of my petition has anything to due with something that I wish was allowed. I "merely" wish them produce official support, such as feats, for archetypes that take their class in an unusual direction. A lot of the support I wish that would exist is easy, at least in my mind, to house rule in. I just feel that there should exist official support for PFS, and those who would avoid creating such house rules.
Again, you're not defining the problem. There is no such thing as an archetype that won't find a feat that will help it. On the other hand designing feats that are ONLY usable by a class/archetype combination would add a factor of complication that doesn't yield a return that justifies making the feat table even more painful to navigate.

Rebounding Leap

Painful Anchor

The first feat supports the Dragoon archetype.

The second feat supports the Oath Against Fiends paladin.

I think their might be a couple more feats that DIRECTLY support an archetype. Not very many at all!

The problem the OP has is that there are lot of archetypes available. Some of them change the classes very dramatically and in some cases "lose" feat support. Take the Cult Leader (Mesmerist Archetype). It replaces the Painful Stare ability. This means all of the [Stare] feats no longer are available. In addition, the replacement of that ability, Fanatical Stare, has another issue. Fanatical Stare doesn't interact with the Bold Stare class feature. The archetype didn't give any additional Bold Stare options that would buff the ally....

This, sorry I was having trouble finding the right words. I thank you.

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