This is about the time dragon
Bestiary 4 wrote: Time Travel (Su): Up to three times in its life, a great wyrm time dragon can travel to any point in time, taking with it a number of willing creatures equal to its Charisma modifier. a) if a time dragon uses all of its time travel uses, dies, and comes back to life by any means (raise dead, resurrection, clone, etc.), does it gets its uses back?
b) can a time dragon recharge the hot tub with a wish?
a) That's entirely up to the GM; there are no rules to cover it that I know of. I'm inclined to say no - obviously this Time Travel thing is meant to be rare and special. Great Wyrms are rich enough to afford hundreds of resurrections and/or contingency spells, so if that would reset the counter they could just suicide to get three more time trips which would trivialize this rare and special ability.
b) Again up to the GM. None of the things on the Wish spell's list of what it can do cover recharging such a rare and special ability that is limited to the lifespan of the (nearly immortal) dragon, so it falls under the bottom part of the spell that says "You may try to use a wish to produce greater effects than these, but doing so is dangerous. (The wish may pervert your intent into a literal but undesirable fulfillment or only a partial fulfillment, at the GM's discretion.)"
However, since the GM (dragon) is making the wish and the GM is arbitrating the wish, it's like roleplaying with yourself. So just decide if it works (or for bonus points, decide that it partially works with "perverted intent" that makes Time Travel awkward or unpredictable - could be an interesting adventure hook if the dragon needs to send the PCs on a quest to "fix" its broken ability).
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ohako wrote: b) can a time dragon recharge the hot tub with a wish? Hot tub?
My Self wrote: ohako wrote: b) can a time dragon recharge the hot tub with a wish? Hot tub? sorry, referencing the movie 'Hot Tub Time Machine'
DM_Blake wrote: a) That's entirely up to the GM; there are no rules to cover it that I know of. I'm inclined to say no - obviously this Time Travel thing is meant to be rare and special. Great Wyrms are rich enough to afford hundreds of resurrections and/or contingency spells, so if that would reset the counter they could just suicide to get three more time trips which would trivialize this rare and special ability.
b) Again up to the GM. None of the things on the Wish spell's list of what it can do cover recharging such a rare and special ability that is limited to the lifespan of the (nearly immortal) dragon, so it falls under the bottom part of the spell that says "You may try to use a wish to produce greater effects than these, but doing so is dangerous. (The wish may pervert your intent into a literal but undesirable fulfillment or only a partial fulfillment, at the GM's discretion.)"
However, since the GM (dragon) is making the wish and the GM is arbitrating the wish, it's like roleplaying with yourself. So just decide if it works (or for bonus points, decide that it partially works with "perverted intent" that makes Time Travel awkward or unpredictable - could be an interesting adventure hook if the dragon needs to send the PCs on a quest to "fix" its broken ability).
I dunno, I think it's a pretty epic quest if you have to go looking for a sacred reliquary containing a chopped-off time dragon claw to true resurrect in order to save the world somehow.
Yeah, I don't know if a PC could ever get their hands on great wyrm time dragon powers by themselves, so it is kind of 'rules-lawyering with yourself', but so what? The Rules forum doesn't always have to be about how to polymorph into Bokrug or what have you.
it's pretty weird.. but techinically new Life I guess..
but yeah gm land there.
That would be one really cool main quest for a game though.......
Pull a Lufia (video games) story style
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Also worth considering if the answer is different for a Reincarnate vs Raise Dead, given that Reincarnate lets you essentially start your lifespan over.
I think a time dragon (or any other dragon for that matter) would be very leery of reincarnate, at least unless they had a way to fudge the roll to go back to being a great wyrm time dragon, rather than an elf or something.
now I'm imagining what would happen if a party of PCs uncovered a fossilized time dragon. Inside its mouth is an adamantine plate with Common writing on it describing the situation. They resurrect it, and then get pulled along on some crazy adventure in the future.
Reincarnation only reincarnates your body. Thats why you dont start a new character, but keep on usig your old character, just with a new body. Likewise Raise Dead, Resurrection, etc. only mean that you can continue living your old live. You just had a "break" from living, which is now over.
Anyway personally i'd explicitlyrule in my home-game that these "per live" abilities are connected to the Soul. Stop discussins about legalistic definitions of "life" and raising the dead way around these restrictions.
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