The Dragon wrote: ChainsawSam wrote: I normally would've said "the people."
However, I'm currently so f%!$ing sick of Shadowrun that I'd be willing to play anything else with anyone else.
I'd play FATAL with Hitler, Goebbles, Ike Turner, and that one dick from High School. Anything to get away from Shadowrun for a long, long time.
So I guess both are important.
If you don't know what FATAL is, don't google it
Would you play RaHoWa, though? I'm trying to gauge just how desperate you are here. I don't think Hitler and Goebbles would be down for RaHoWa. It's gaming, it's supposed to be escapist. It's like their time off, their "weekend."
You don't see me running off to find the perfect system to simulate getting f!$$ed over by the VA while running a small business into the ground do you?
I've never played Shadowrun, but I like dice pool systems and LOVE the setting (read all the books)...
I'm so sorry you hate it, what exactly do you hate? I wanted to talk my current group into trying it... :D
alexd1976 wrote: I've never played Shadowrun, but I like dice pool systems and LOVE the setting (read all the books)...
I'm so sorry you hate it, what exactly do you hate? I wanted to talk my current group into trying it... :D
Lets start by saying that the rules are so crunchy they make Pathfinder look like systemless, diceless, hippie-crap and that wouldn't be quite so bad if the rules weren't so terribly thought out, written, and edited. It's a train wreck.
Other than that? Almost everything.
I seriously can't even get into it here. I can't talk about it at all without the ordeal turning into a massive, raging rant and it would be a huge digression from an otherwise productive (if getting a little redundant) thread. Wouldn't be appropriate.
If you're really curious, this blog post is a lazy, half-hearted, cliff-notes version of what my violent behemoth of a throat-screaming denouncement would be. I seriously can't even talk about that system without bolded caps.
ChainsawSam wrote: alexd1976 wrote: I've never played Shadowrun, but I like dice pool systems and LOVE the setting (read all the books)...
I'm so sorry you hate it, what exactly do you hate? I wanted to talk my current group into trying it... :D
Lets start by saying that the rules are so crunchy they make Pathfinder look like systemless, diceless, hippie-crap and that wouldn't be quite so bad if the rules weren't so terribly thought out, written, and edited. It's a train wreck.
Other than that? Almost everything.
I seriously can't even get into it here. I can't talk about it at all without the ordeal turning into a massive, raging rant and it would be a huge digression from an otherwise productive (if getting a little redundant) thread. Wouldn't be appropriate.
If you're really curious, this blog post is a lazy, half-hearted, cliff-notes version of what my violent behemoth of a throat-screaming denouncement would be. I seriously can't even talk about that system without bolded caps. That makes me sad, because conceptually it seems super awesome.
My current game that I'm designing (mechanics) will allow for this, spells, modern weapons, whatever... seamlessly. :D
alexd1976 wrote: ChainsawSam wrote: alexd1976 wrote: I've never played Shadowrun, but I like dice pool systems and LOVE the setting (read all the books)...
I'm so sorry you hate it, what exactly do you hate? I wanted to talk my current group into trying it... :D
Lets start by saying that the rules are so crunchy they make Pathfinder look like systemless, diceless, hippie-crap and that wouldn't be quite so bad if the rules weren't so terribly thought out, written, and edited. It's a train wreck.
Other than that? Almost everything.
I seriously can't even get into it here. I can't talk about it at all without the ordeal turning into a massive, raging rant and it would be a huge digression from an otherwise productive (if getting a little redundant) thread. Wouldn't be appropriate.
If you're really curious, this blog post is a lazy, half-hearted, cliff-notes version of what my violent behemoth of a throat-screaming denouncement would be. I seriously can't even talk about that system without bolded caps. That makes me sad, because conceptually it seems super awesome.
My current game that I'm designing (mechanics) will allow for this, spells, modern weapons, whatever... seamlessly. :D There's an Apocalypse World hack for it. I haven't played it, but it can't possibly be worse.
ChainsawSam wrote: alexd1976 wrote: ChainsawSam wrote: alexd1976 wrote: I've never played Shadowrun, but I like dice pool systems and LOVE the setting (read all the books)...
I'm so sorry you hate it, what exactly do you hate? I wanted to talk my current group into trying it... :D
Lets start by saying that the rules are so crunchy they make Pathfinder look like systemless, diceless, hippie-crap and that wouldn't be quite so bad if the rules weren't so terribly thought out, written, and edited. It's a train wreck.
Other than that? Almost everything.
I seriously can't even get into it here. I can't talk about it at all without the ordeal turning into a massive, raging rant and it would be a huge digression from an otherwise productive (if getting a little redundant) thread. Wouldn't be appropriate.
If you're really curious, this blog post is a lazy, half-hearted, cliff-notes version of what my violent behemoth of a throat-screaming denouncement would be. I seriously can't even talk about that system without bolded caps. That makes me sad, because conceptually it seems super awesome.
My current game that I'm designing (mechanics) will allow for this, spells, modern weapons, whatever... seamlessly. :D There's an Apocalypse World hack for it. I haven't played it, but it can't possibly be worse. I'm making something that doesn't use the concept of 'character levels'.
just skills.
Mad Max, Batman... all reproduceable.
Getting tougher is possible, with skills...
Yep. Played with a similar system, tons of fun, don't want to give away too much. :D
ChainsawSam wrote: There's an Apocalypse World hack for it. I haven't played it, but it can't possibly be worse. There's a whole bunch of games with Shadowrun hacks, and others which have "Shadowrun with the Numbers Filed Off" settings. There's very good Fate and Savage Worlds ones, in addition to the *World system versions.
Bluenose wrote: ChainsawSam wrote: There's an Apocalypse World hack for it. I haven't played it, but it can't possibly be worse. There's a whole bunch of games with Shadowrun hacks, and others which have "Shadowrun with the Numbers Filed Off" settings. There's very good Fate and Savage Worlds ones, in addition to the *World system versions. I haven't played much Savage Worlds, but the systems seems like it'd make a decent foundation for a Shadowrun hack right out of the box.
They also do this neat thing where they sell small rulebooks for a low price. My Savage Worlds core book is like 6x9 and seems to be bound halfway decent. It's easy to carry around and it cost less than half of what it'd take for another game's core book. Real smart move on their part.
Also they've got the basic rules available in PDF on the site for free.
So if Savage Worlds has a hack for it, my gut says try that unless you're really into Asterisk World.
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