Fractured Mind and Ectoplasmatist Spiritualist


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Are the Fractured Mind and Ectoplasmatist archetypes compatible from the Occult Adventure's book?

The relevant text doesn't show any explicit conflicts.

Ectoplasmatist replaces etheric tether, phantom, shared consciousness, fused consciousness, spiritual bond, empowered consciousness, bonded manifestation, phantom recall, dual bond, spiritual interference and greater spiritual interference.

Fractured Mind alters spell-casting and replaces replaces detect undead, calm spirit, see invisibility, and call spirit.

Rules as written, there doesn't appear to be any direct conflicts, but I'm wondering if the fact that the Ectoplasmatist loses their phantom means they don't have an emotional focus. The Emotional Focus ability of the Fractured Mind reads:

Spoiler:
Emotional Power (Sp): The fractured mind gains a number of spell-like abilities, which are tied to her phantom’s emotional focus. ... This ability replaces detect undead, calm spirit, see invisibility, and call spirit.

I liked the flavor of these two archetypes since the Ecto loses their phantom, so it sort of makes sense that their powers might just manifest from their own emotional state, but emotional state isn't really a class feature outside of the phantom. This might just be a flavor text conflict, but I'd like to use this character in PFS, so swapping caster stats isn't something I'd want to undertake lightly since it'd be impossible to fix the character if it turns out these archetypes aren't compatible.


By the archtype rules it appear to be legal, but I have no idea how you'd correctly deal with the lack of Emotional Focus.

Ectoplasmatist sort of gets one at level 12, but it strikes me as something that will either need a faq or be open to much table variation


Mighty Squash wrote:

By the archtype rules it appear to be legal, but I have no idea how you'd correctly deal with the lack of Emotional Focus.

Ectoplasmatist sort of gets one at level 12, but it strikes me as something that will either need a faq or be open to much table variation

Yea, that's sort of what I assumed as well, but I figured I'd toss it out here to see what others thought. It definitely seems like the kind of thing where it may have been written one way at one point and changed, or maybe just written before the Ectoplasmatist existed. Regardless, I'll probably avoid for now. If it'd didn't alter spell casting, I could just delay taking Fractured Mind - but that doesn't seem like an option.

I marked this as a FAQ candidate.

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