So Construct rider officially allows a construct to get targeted by a mind effect if it has a mind. Does this include other constructs as well (Similar to how an Ooze with an inteligence works)?
I mean that would make sense, and that control construct allows control over mindless constructs, and provides a good reason to keep your constructs mindless.
So whats the Zeitgeist?
The heck is up with that name. Don't take this the wrong way, but I thought it was a new spammer alias at first. ;P
In answer to your question, technically, no. The text in construct vs. ooze is different.
Immunity to all mind-affecting effects (charms, compulsions, morale effects, patterns, and phantasms).
Mindless: No Intelligence score, and immunity to all mind-affecting effects (charms, compulsions, phantasms, patterns, and morale effects). An ooze with an Intelligence score loses this trait.
RAW, there's a clear difference. RAI, though?
Still no.
Constructed (Ex) Although inevitables are living outsiders, their bodies are constructed of physical components, and in many ways they function as constructs. For the purposes of effects targeting creatures by type (such as a ranger's favored enemy and bane weapons), inevitables count as both outsiders and constructs. They are immune to death effects, disease, mind-affecting effects, necromancy effects, paralysis, poison, sleep, stun, and any effect that requires a Fortitude save (unless the effect also works on objects, or is harmless). Inevitables are not subject to nonlethal damage, ability damage, ability drain, fatigue, exhaustion, or energy drain. They are not at risk of death from massive damage. They have bonus hit points as constructs of their size.
Clearly, the immunity is not connected to intelligence (or lack thereof), but to the qualities of being artificial.
A construct is immune to mind-affecting effects unless stated otherwise. Period.
I made that nickname in a rush. Il change it later someday.
A construct mount is a construct, but uses the appropriate animal companion's statistics, gaining Hit Dice, skills, feats, and Strength and Dexterity adjustments as the alchemist advances in level. A construct mount has no Constitution score, and instead gains bonus hit points appropriate for a construct of its size. It has an Intelligence score (and skill points), a lower base attack bonus, and better saving throws than a normal construct of its Hit Dice. The mount has all the immunities of a construct (except immunity to mind-affecting effects, since it has a mind).
This is the confusing bit. Its funny because the justification makes it more confusing then just saying it isn't immune to mind effects.
Bear in mind you can only change your name until you've made ten or more posts. You can make an alias, though.
I'd call that a contradiction. Since it's from a PF Player Companion, I'd say Inevitables overrule it.
I made this account years ago. I just don't comment often. Eh, I prefer the mind rules better, though that will depend on construct type.
Robots, Clockworks get immunity because they can be hacked in other ways. But enlightened constructs can be mind controlled.
The trouble is that there's already a type of "construct" with a mind—the inevitable. Hell, it's not even a true construct, but even it gets the immunity.
The rule from Construct Rider is specifically for the construct mount that the archetype gets. It is not a broader rule that implies that other intelligent constructs should lose their immunity to mind affecting. It affects only the alchemist construct mount.
Yup. I can just lay that off on being the result of the plane of laws creation.
Except it's a trait of their being construct-like, not of their being outsiders or of what made them. But run it however you want. :)
Like I said, run it as you like—your interpretation does line up with the golem rider rules, and it's not like it's going to ruin any PCs' or GMs' days.