confusion about a FAQ ruling - True Strike Extract


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How can Alchemists create an infused extract of True Strike, when they cannot make an extract that has a Focus requirement?

the Advanced Player's Guide FAQ wrote:

Alchemist and infusions: Can I use the infusion discovery to create an infused extract of a personal-range formula (such as true strike), which someone else can drink?

Yes, you can. The design team may decide to close this loophole in the next printing of the Advanced Player's Guide.

the Alchemists' class description wrote:
Extracts cannot be made from spells that have focus requirements
the True Strike spell wrote:
Components V, F (small wooden replica of an archery target)

Silver Crusade

Why make a duplicate thread?

And, why leave out the text we quoted you last time that answers your question?


Irwin, the Gnome wrote:
Why make a duplicate thread?

'cause That one was about a specific case, and (probably because of that) didn't get much attention.

You're right though, I should have put a link in.

Quote:
And, why leave out the text we quoted you last time that answers your question?

Because it didn't answer that question (nor this one). The Alchemist's class description is in conflict with its own formulae list. We can argue about which rule takes precedence, but really: one of those rules just shouldn't be there.


I think the FAQ answer is less in question than the fact that True Strike is on the Alchemist's Extract list when it appears not to be eligible.

The FAQ answered the question raised, which used True Strike as an example. There is no issue with the FAQ answer if you substitute another appropriate spell/extract for True Strike. The issue is that True Strike, specifically, is on the extract list even though it is not eligible.

Silver Crusade

Or, as with every other class, there are "general rules", and there are "specific exceptions".

General Rule: "Extracts cannot be made from spells that have focus requirements"

This covers Alchemist PCs researching new extracts to add to their Formulae list.

Specific Exception: "Alchemists gain access to a variety of formulae, allowing them to make extracts of the following spells"

Amongst those "following spells" are True Strike and Analyze Dweomer, which have Focus components.

EDIT: imagine I posted this 43 seconds ago.


Yes but if the paladin drinks it he falls.

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