Need a clarification on FAQ about weapon bonus maximums.


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From the FAQ:

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Weapon Bonuses: Can weapon special abilities (such as bane) or class abilities (such as a paladin's divine bond) allow you to exceed the +5 enhancement bonus limit and the +10 bonus-equivalent limitation?

For the enhancement bonus limitation, it depends on the specific effect or ability that's altering the weapon.

[B}Bane: This allows the weapon to exceed the +5 limit, but only against the designated creature type. For example, a +5 dragon-bane longsword is normally a +5 weapon, but has a +7 enhancement bonus against dragons and deals +2d6 points of damage against dragons.[/B]

Paladin: The divine bond ability says "These [enhancement] bonuses can be added to the weapon, stacking with existing weapon bonuses to a maximum of +5." That means if a paladin has a +5 longsword, she can't use her divine bond to increate the enhancement bonus to +6 or higher (but she could use her bonuses to add abilities such as flaming to the weapon).

The +10 bonus-equivalent limitation is a hard cap for all weapons; you can't exceed that even with class abilities or other unusual abilities.

Can someone explain this specifically in the example of a bane weapon?

#1 How does a +5 Flaming Dragon-Bane Dagger of Speed work?

This should be a +10 bonus-equivalent (+5 enhancement, +1 from Flaming, +1 from Dragon-bane, +3 from speed)?

When I'm fighting a Dragon does this break the +10 bonus-equivalent maximum and become a +11 (+7 enhancement, +1 from Flaming, +3 from speed)? If so is it allowed?


Fighting a dragon doesn't change the properties of the weapon. It simply applies the properties of the dragon-bane. It doesn't suddenly become a +7 flaming dagger of speed. You just apply +2 more than you usually would as per part of the dragon-bane enchantment.


Yep, that's the best answer.

The weapon is designed as a +10 weapon, but under certain conditions extra bonus may apply. When that happens, it's still a +10 weapon AND you get the extra bonus.


Sweet thanks guys. I appreciate all the quick responses. I'm just getting into all the rules on crafting and trying to learn as much as I can. DM_Blake you have been very helpful. I just read your response in my other question and it makes a lot more sense now.

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