Damiel questions once again...

[Katgramm]

I'm playing Damiel in my SnS campaign, we are about to finish act 3 and I have some questions before choosing my role :

- I just got my first PoH, I've read stuff on this forum but couldn't find a clear answer : "If I have a PoH displayed, can I use an item on the check and still get the D6 from the PoH (which was displayed before the encounter)?"

- About the grenadier role, everybody says it's broken and I can't see why. Spell recharges and "upgraded bombs" (using the discard bonus) aren't craft checks, right? Is this really much better than the "discard cards to have absurd hand size" stuff?

Thanks for your answers!

[Hawkmoon269]

1. Yes. The potion of heroism is activated when you play it and provides a continual bonus. You do not activate it again on each check so you are not playing it on each check.

2. I don't know why people say that. You are correct that those are not craft checks.

[Katgramm]

Thanks!

[Matsu Kurisu]

The upgraded bombs give huge one shot capability. I happen to run two tot flask and the alchemal fire etc also have a craft check option so the craft draw an item has also been moderately useful for me

[Dave Riley]

Yeah, if you're not chucking bombs Craft checks don't come up much. I think I went Grenadier because its powers felt ever so slightly better (recharge an Alchemical item for a d4? I'd rather just use that Potion of Heroism as god intended!), but I think Damiel's got one of this "nice problems" of being too front loaded. He's amazing right out of the gate and he's kind of like the ultra version of a pure caster: his skillset diversifies much more from the cards he has than his power feats. So when you get PoHero in AP1 you're a pretty different Damiel, when you get PoFly in AP3 you're a VERY different Damiel, and so on. So you kind of just have suck up the resignation of checking off the extra d12 for your discard power** and get on with onerous task of working yourself into a 2x PoHero, 2x PoFly, 2x Tot Flask, Infinite-Wielding "Hey, doesn't this kind of break the game?" machine.

**Honestly I took the power feat for extra explores off Liquid and Alchemical early on and I think, of the maybe half-dozen times it actually came up, I remembered to use it like once.

[Sandslice]

Hawkmoon269 wrote:

1. Yes. The potion of heroism is activated when you play it and provides a continual bonus. You do not activate it again on each check so you are not playing it on each check.

2. I don't know why people say that. You are correct that those are not craft checks.

Adding a card to a bomb isn't a Craft check; but then you get a Craft check to recharge the added card.

[Joshua Birk 898]

Katgramm wrote:

- About the grenadier role, everybody says it's broken and I can't see why. Spell recharges and "upgraded bombs" (using the discard bonus) aren't craft checks, right? Is this really much better than the "discard cards to have absurd hand size" stuff?

Thanks for your answers!

Tot Flask! Tot Flask! Tot Flask! Tot Flask!

Using those search powers should let you trigger the card draw all day long

[Pyrocat]

I felt pretty ridiculous last night. Starting hand: Potion of Healing, Tot Flask, Ice bomb (can't recall exact name), Augury, Recast, Control Weather, "Jack" Scrimshaw, Blessing

healed party member w/ PoHealing

Tot Flask for PoHealing

succeeded at craft check to recharge Tot Flask

top of deck was a PoFlying -> added to hand

healed self w/ PoHealing

flew + explored with PoFlying

defeated monster w/Ice bomb + added item

succeeded at craft check to recharge added item

top of deck was Impossible Bottle -> added to hand

healed self w/ Impossible Bottle

succeeded at craft check to recharge Impossible Bottle

top of deck was a Tot Flask -> added to hand

Tot Flask for PoFlying

succeeded at craft check to recharge Tot Flask
.etc .etc .etc