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The interesting question is - does anyone object if your basic armors drift away from Leather and drift towards Stalking? That is to say, just make the baseline armor more awesome in general.
Not just basic armors, all armors should be better. And I feel that Wrath is moving towards that. Commanders Field Plate, Armor of the the Pious, and Gossamer Shrouds are all awesome and should be models.
Agree with Joshua. Also wanted to add than S&S gave me a bizarre combo of "oh! I actually want armor now!" and "oh! all these armors are really boring!" I get that S&S was the "low magic setting," but there was nothing on the level of an Invincible Breastplate or Adamantine Plate or nothin'.
Having armors that do something besides soak damage is a plus in my book, even if the only thing I've used Stalking Armor for is guaranteeing Adowyn beats a dire rat before she even has to roll the dice.
The interesting question is - does anyone object if your basic armors drift away from Leather and drift towards Stalking? That is to say, just make the baseline armor more awesome in general.
Yes please! If the trend goes towards more before you act damage, as a player I need more armour, however it would be great if the armour has alternate actions to stop hand clog
The interesting question is - does anyone object if your basic armors drift away from Leather and drift towards Stalking? That is to say, just make the baseline armor more awesome in general.
I will find a way to silence anyone who objects. *Glares around the room as if daring someone to speak up*
In addition to more utility on armor, I'd like to see armor that blocks non-combat damage appear earlier in the game. One of the biggest problem I have with armor is that it's not as good at doing the thing that armor is ostensibly supposed to do (prevent damage) as well as early items like the amulet of life or ring of protection. (I don't remember if amulet of Fort does non-combat damage, too). Wrath helps this a bit by having a TON more combat damage, but if there were a ring of protection in this game, it'd still be better than almost every armor.
Actually I find it nice.
You start with a Leather Armor as per the suggested decks in the rulebook.
Having better Basic armors allows the following benefits :
- Makes for real rewards for AP0
- Can be added in your deck between scenarios if you banished the lather for example
- Are removed if banished after AP2
So I'm not objecting to better basic.
But I would object to characters starting with them their first scenario.
That's what Frencois is saying though, is that the better armor shouldn't be basic, to ensure that he has good stuff to look forward to finding.
I say let every single piece of armor be better. Make the basics more like the Stalker Armor and let the non-basics be even better. Armor in this game at it's very core is flawed - in order to avoid losing cards from your hand, you have to give up a card in your hand indefinitely. That's just silly. Increasing the amount of damage that's unavoidable to fix the problem is like littering your RPG game with one type of enemy because they have a rare resistance that causes your party to react to encounters differently, when you could just give that resistance to other monsters or enact some other solution. But letting armor do something besides just absorb damage means it can do its job and not be a liability from the time you draw it to the time you actually use it.
I'd love to see a Stalking Armor for every non-standard check (fortitude, knowledge, diplomacy, etc), more Buckler Guns (and similar cards, like perhaps "Razor Edge Buckler"?), more stuff like that Valkyrie helm or whatever it's called that lets you move, and other creative armors.
Some easy examples:
Restorative Armor - Bury to draw a card
Armor of the Vulture - Hands off to another player like the Vulture ally instead of burying
Armor of the Eagle - Put on top of the deck to scout like the Eagle ally, or recharge if that's too powerful
Blessed Armor - Bury to add a die to a check (this would probably be loot)
Regenerative Armor - Heals you or a friend perhaps
Goggled Helmet - When you examine cards from a location deck, discard to examine an additional card
Explorer's Armor - Bury to explore
Aggro Armor - Use to protect a different player
Armor of the Mule - doesn't count towards your hand size
Lifeward Armor - Use as normal OR to protect your deck
Knife-concealing Boots - has the same effect as a dagger (discard to add d4 to your combat check)
Alchemist's Bandolier - Bury it instead of banishing a card with the alchemical and ranged traits (which stays in your hand)
Looking at your list, some of the armors in AP2 of Wrath are going to make you very happy, Orbis.
Looking at your list, some of the armors in AP2 of Wrath are going to make you very happy, Orbis.
That's good news. I dislike disliking armor so much - it'll be great to take some that don't make me feel like I'm playing with duds in my deck, but rather enhance it and make me feel good about their inclusion.
That's what Frencois is saying though, is that the better armor shouldn't be basic, to ensure that he has good stuff to look forward to finding....
Actually what I was saying is that the "better" solution would be to have 2 traits : starting and basic. But that would just add complexity for minimum gain.
So Mike/Vic and the others were right to take the easy way, but it's a very easy house rule to fix if you want to go with fun :Replace "suggested starting decks" by "starting decks" in the rule book.
So Mike/Vic and the others were right to take the easy way, but it's a very easy house rule to fix if you want to go with fun :
Replace "suggested starting decks" by "starting decks" in the rule book.
Different kinds of fun, my friend.
I, for one, take great pleasure in deck customization, in card games in general. I hate playing with friends' decks, and pre-built decks - building my own is a significant part of my enjoyment. I would hate to see this rule implemented.
Yeah that is yucky. Customization is kind of the heart of this game, and taking that away is awful.
And besides we tried this whole "good rewards in B scenarios above the baseline" thing in RotR. It seemed to lead to more boon farming, if I understand Chad correctly in the difficulty thread.
And boon farming isn't fun.
So Mike/Vic and the others were right to take the easy way, but it's a very easy house rule to fix if you want to go with fun :
Replace "suggested starting decks" by "starting decks" in the rule book.Different kinds of fun, my friend.
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I agree, whatever suits you is good.