Nesa's coin and concealing pocket


Rules Questions


Can a Nesa's coin be detected when it's in a concealing pocket?
My guess is no but what do you think?


In general you can detect objects with a high enough perception check (although you'd probably have to frisk someone in this case).

I think you meant with a detect magic (or similar) spell. In which case no, it would not be detected with magic because it says so in the item description. The pocket however would detect as an illusion.

Now if the person detecting your coin has true sight and detect magic (or a suitably high perception check) you're screwed.


It could go either way, but I would say yes, you can detect the coin:

Concealing Pocket wrote:
Any magic item inside it cannot be magically detected, as if protected by magic aura.

This isn't a caret-blanch immunity to detection; it specifically works as magic aura would. Okay, so lets look at magic aura:

Magic Aura wrote:
You alter an item's aura so that it registers to detect spells (and spells with similar capabilities) as though it were non-magical, or a magic item of a kind you specify, or the subject of a spell you specify.

The detection ability of Nesa's Coin doesn't seem to care about it's aura at all:

Nesa's Coin wrote:
This simple copper coin establishes a connection with the most recent person to keep it under her tongue for 24 hours. Once established, this connection allows its owner to determine its current direction and distance each time she casts detect magic. The connection instantly breaks if the coin travels to another plane or enters an antimagic field.

It simply says that whenever you cast detect magic, you also know the direction and distance of the coin. It doesn't seem to care if you can't detect the aura(either because you're too far away, or because there's a sheet of lead between you, or because the aura has been hidden with Magic Aura). As a result, Concealing Pocket or no, you would still know the direction and distance of Nessa's Coin.

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