Mythic 3rd tier ability "recuperation".What dose spells per day mean?


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Recuperation (Ex): At 3rd tier, you are restored to full hit points after 8 hours of rest so long as you aren't dead. In addition, by expending one use of mythic power and resting for 1 hour, you regain a number of hit points equal to half your full hit points (up to a maximum of your full hit points) and regain the use of any class features that are limited to a certain number of uses per day (such as barbarian rage, bardic performance, spells per day, and so on). This rest is treated as 8 hours of sleep for such abilities. This rest doesn't refresh uses of mythic power or any mythic abilities that are limited to a number of times per day.

Dose it mean that a Mage can memorize new spells as if it were a brand new day? or maybe he "regains" his used spells back or he can gets back only his arcane schools daily spells instead?
What a about a cleric? he has to wait anyway his particular chosen moment of the day to regain his spells? He dose not regain his spells but only his "daily" ones like domain special spell like abilities? Dose anybody here can help me with this conundrum?
( I have to say this....you waste time on explaining that you heal as long as you are alive..doh!?...and not a word of explanation on the spell per day matter? Come on! a dead character dose not rest 8 hours.....only in peace, everybody knows)


You seem awfully forgettfull that in Pathfinder exists different states of being on top of live and dead, like undead or construct. They don't heal naturally so that's why that recuperation clause is there.
On spells, i'd say it's quite boggling to argue that it shoud do someting different that wat it says on the tin since there is no base for assuming that. You regain use of your spells, it's as simple as that. Regain use of your spells. Run down what that means in standard english and you should be fine.


Dekalinder wrote:

You seem awfully forgettfull that in Pathfinder exists different states of being on top of live and dead, like undead or construct. They don't heal naturally so that's why that recuperation clause is there.

On spells, i'd say it's quite boggling to argue that it shoud do someting different that wat it says on the tin since there is no base for assuming that. You regain use of your spells, it's as simple as that. Regain use of your spells. Run down what that means in standard english and you should be fine.

I'm aware that in fantasy games there are different levels of"life" but my complain ( and joke by the way) was all about the need the authors had to explain such trivial things without spend few words on the spells part that is always the most tricky and "mistakable", that's it ( I guess many players and DMs will agree with me).

I think I'll do as you say as long as nothing comes out. thanks


Anything that refreshes as though a new day rolled around is reloaded. Yes, that means new spell memorizations.

Interestingly, that means that despite the one-hour time, it's really two hours if you have any prepared casters.

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Interestingly enough I believe by RAW anyone that prays from spells does not regain from that ability - they can still only pray once a day, at their chosen time.


Keith Apperson wrote:
Interestingly enough I believe by RAW anyone that prays from spells does not regain from that ability - they can still only pray once a day, at their chosen time.

Given that it's already RAW that Clerics can pray multiple times per day (usually to fill spell slots left empty), that's... wrong. Very wrong.

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kestral287 wrote:
Keith Apperson wrote:
Interestingly enough I believe by RAW anyone that prays from spells does not regain from that ability - they can still only pray once a day, at their chosen time.
Given that it's already RAW that Clerics can pray multiple times per day (usually to fill spell slots left empty), that's... wrong. Very wrong.

You are correct - they are able to pray multiple times per day to choose spells for slots left open. The primary prayer (at their appointed time) is required to refresh the slots in the first place though.


Keith Apperson wrote:
kestral287 wrote:
Keith Apperson wrote:
Interestingly enough I believe by RAW anyone that prays from spells does not regain from that ability - they can still only pray once a day, at their chosen time.
Given that it's already RAW that Clerics can pray multiple times per day (usually to fill spell slots left empty), that's... wrong. Very wrong.
You are correct - they are able to pray multiple times per day to choose spells for slots left open. The primary prayer (at their appointed time) is required to refresh the slots in the first place though.

Which the mythic ability specifically overrides, by declaring outright that the slots are refreshed.

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kestral287 wrote:
Keith Apperson wrote:
kestral287 wrote:
Keith Apperson wrote:
Interestingly enough I believe by RAW anyone that prays from spells does not regain from that ability - they can still only pray once a day, at their chosen time.
Given that it's already RAW that Clerics can pray multiple times per day (usually to fill spell slots left empty), that's... wrong. Very wrong.
You are correct - they are able to pray multiple times per day to choose spells for slots left open. The primary prayer (at their appointed time) is required to refresh the slots in the first place though.
Which the mythic ability specifically overrides, by declaring outright that the slots are refreshed.

My only problem with that is the line 'This rest is treated as 8 hours of sleep for such abilities.'

Spells for those that pray are not tied to rest. I think it basically falls back to the Nap Stack question, which is - does your God give you spells again just cause you cast a spell? Or in this case: does you being Mythic allow you to reclaim your God's gifts?

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