Hey everyone, I think I found a solid way to use the Hellknight Signifier class for some awesome flavor and I'd love to run the build by you guys to get some feedback.
The race is Half-Elf(Ancestral Arms-Fauchard). You could go human for the same feat, or a different feat since the fauchard isn't necessary to the build, it's just a cool weapon with reach and a great crit range.
I would take 6 levels in Oracle(Battle Mystery), and choose the Legalistic curse(both for theme and because it's not too painful even though it doesn't advance), then all 10 levels in Signifier before returning to Oracle.
Here's the order of my feats/revelations, and then I'll explain my reasoning.
1-Warrior Priest, Weapon Prof(Fauchard-Bonus), 3-Power Attack, Weapon Focus(Bonus), 5-Divine Protection, 7-Extra Revelation, Alignment Channel(Chaos-Bonus), 8-Improved Critical(Bonus), 9-Cornugon Smash, 11-Extra Revelation, 12-Greater Weapon Focus(Bonus)
1-Skill at Arms, 3-Weapon Mastery, 7-War Sight(Feat), 11-Iron Skin(Feat)
So how this works is that when I take my Hellknight levels I continue to gain casting levels, and my oracle level increases or the purposes of my revelations/mysteries. All I miss out on is the progression of my curse(fortunately Legalistic doesn't have great benefits until level 15), and I don't get any more revelations. In my opinion, there aren't many truly worthwhile revelations anyways, and I've made sure to pick them up with feats. So in exchange for these relatively minor costs, not only do I get the flavor of being a Hellknight, something I've been trying to do in a relatively optimal way for a while, but I'll gain all the Hellknight abilities like being able to discern all spells on a target, or use what is essentially True Seeing or Discern Lies.
It's probably not that optimal, all things considered, but are there any gaping holes in this build?
Sounds awesome. Don't see any holes, but it's been a REALLY long time since I played my battle oracle. This build also might be really fun with a warpriest.
I wasn't sure about a warpriest since most of their abilities won't progress with hellknight, but it could potentially work, I haven't looked into it.
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Oracle curses do progress with non-oracle levels, but at half-speed.
So L6 oracle plus 10 levels of Signifier is the equivalent of a L11 oracle for the curse.
Oracle curses do progress with non-oracle levels, but at half-speed.
So L6 oracle plus 10 levels of Signifier is the equivalent of a L11 oracle for the curse.
I didn't know that, but this makes the build even more solid, thanks for pointing that out!
I'd personally scrap Skill At Arms, or at least retrain it at 7. You're already getting proficiency in your primary weapon from EWP, and Hellknight Signifier grants Heavy Armour Proficiency for free. I'd exchange it for Surprising Charge, though Maneuver Mastery (Dirty Trick or Trip) with the Elf favored class bonus can be fun.
EDIT:
That aside, I really like the elegance and simplicity of this build. I'm planning to borrow it for PFS, with Divine Protection swapped for Combat Reflexes.
I'd personally scrap Skill At Arms, or at least retrain it at 7. You're already getting proficiency in your primary weapon from EWP, and Hellknight Signifier grants Heavy Armour Proficiency for free. I'd exchange it for Surprising Charge, though Maneuver Mastery (Dirty Trick or Trip) with the Elf favored class bonus can be fun.
EDIT:
That aside, I really like the elegance and simplicity of this build. I'm planning to borrow it for PFS, with Divine Protection swapped for Combat Reflexes.
That's a great point, I'm not sure of it'd be worth it just for longbow proficiency, but realistically speaking it's probably not. I didn't even notice that it was relatively unnecessary, so thanks for pointing that out!