Bull Rush modifyers and Shield bash

[Timdog]

So im working on my first PFS character and got some great answers in another thread so had one more question to ask. For the feat shield bash it says you get a free bull rush maneuver with the shield bash but you use the attack roll. This would mean the benefits you get from improved and greater bull rush feats don't apply, nor would the foehammer innate bonuses, right? Thats a significant loss of bull rushing success.

If i get the rage power knockback i can replace any attack with a bull rush. This would give me full bonuses.Assiming level 6 and twf and improved twf during a full attack could I:

use my first attack to bull rush with full benefits
Freely follow as per the bull rush to follow up
use my second attack to hit him
use my first shield bash to hit him and try bull rush with just the attack roll (no feat benefits ). If successful follow with 5ft step as specified in shield bash feat.
use my second shield bash to try and bull rush again. No follow up possible.

Sorry typing this on a phone!

Warhammer main shield offhand

[UndeadMitch]

Are you talking about Shield Slam? The good thing about shield slam is that you don't have to specialize in bull rush for it. I've got a rondelero duelist fighter that likes to do stuff like use greater disarm to fling an opponents weapon 15 feet, hack them with a falcata, then use shield slam to knock them away from their weapon.

Also, it lets you bull rush off of a shield bash, so you can full attack and still be able to bull rush off of Shield Slam. From what I could tell, normally bull rush is a standard action or part of a charge, so it cannot be used as part of a full attack, unless there is something I am missing.

[Timdog]

Anyone able to confirm how this works? Yes with shield slam

[Imbicatus]

Quote:

Benefit: Any opponents hit by your shield bash are also hit with a free bull rush attack, substituting your attack roll for the combat maneuver check.

You substitute the attack roll for the maneuver check. That means you do not roll maneuver check, therefore any bonuses or penalties that you may have on a bull rush check would not apply. However, any weapon enhancement bonus you have on the shield would apply, so it's usually a wash.