Question's in the title line. I get confused regarding what's considered a 'polymorph' effect...
You are correct that Enlarge Person is not a polymorph, but it prevents stacking anyway.
Enlarge Person wrote: Multiple magical effects that increase size do not stack.
Wildshape as a (Su) ability is indeed magical.
Just to expand a bit, per the latest size change faq two actual size changes never stack. So even if enlarge person didn't have that text it wouldn't stack.
Thanks for the quick responses.
I'm actually gonna disagree with the other replies here, as they're not really "stacking". Wild shape doesn't increase your size, you become a set size, and increasing or decreasing effects go from there.
Otherwise small druids that wildshape into medium animals could not grow, but medium druids could. Also animals that advance into large versions wouldn't be able to benefit from animal growth.
HOWEVER, under the polymorph rules, it states you can't change size via spell while under a polymorph effect. So unless you can find a way to increase size that's not via a spell, you're out of luck.
Triune wrote: I'm actually gonna disagree with the other replies here, as they're not really "stacking". Wild shape doesn't increase your size, you become a set size, and increasing or decreasing effects go from there.
Otherwise small druids that wildshape into medium animals could not grow, but medium druids could. Also animals that advance into large versions wouldn't be able to benefit from animal growth.
HOWEVER, under the polymorph rules, it states you can't change size via spell while under a polymorph effect. So unless you can find a way to increase size that's not via a spell, you're out of luck.
Transmutaion(polymorph) wrote: You can only be affected by one polymorph spell at a time. If a new polymorph spell is cast on you (or you activate a polymorph effect, such as wild shape), you can decide whether or not to allow it to affect you, taking the place of the old spell. In addition, other spells that change your size have no effect on you while you are under the effects of a polymorph spell. Do what you want for your own games, but it's not intended at all, any way you slice it.
The sentence above it explains that wild shape is a polymorph effect, not actually a polymorph spell. Thus that sentence does not apply to wild shape though.
Rikkan wrote: The sentence above it explains that wild shape is a polymorph effect, not actually a polymorph spell. Thus that sentence does not apply to wild shape though. Wildshape wrote: This ability functions like the beast shape I spell, except as noted here. (The changes are not to overall function of the polymorph subschool, I assure you.)
Archaeik wrote: Triune wrote:
HOWEVER, under the polymorph rules, it states you can't change size via spell while under a polymorph effect. So unless you can find a way to increase size that's not via a spell, you're out of luck. Transmutaion(polymorph) wrote: You can only be affected by one polymorph spell at a time. If a new polymorph spell is cast on you (or you activate a polymorph effect, such as wild shape), you can decide whether or not to allow it to affect you, taking the place of the old spell. In addition, other spells that change your size have no effect on you while you are under the effects of a polymorph spell. Do what you want for your own games, but it's not intended at all, any way you slice it. That is exactly what I was referencing in the last paragraph.
I'm guessing you didn't read the whole post?
Wildshape functions as a spell in all respects, including the polymorph subschool. I'm done talking to a wall here.
Archaeik wrote: Wildshape functions as a spell in all respects, including the polymorph subschool. I'm done talking to a wall here. Buddy, we're agreeing. No need for the condescension. If you read my posts, you'd understand that. The only thing we disagreed on wad your original reasoning, which was in fact wrong.
Talking to a wall indeed.
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