I have tried using the table on page 550 of the core rule book but it is confusing to me. I want to take my +1 sword and add keen edge.
I think I can understand the cost of making a +1 sword from a masterwork one or the cost of making a +1 shield from a masterwork shield.
I start to get lost when I want to add properties to things. There isn't an example like Keen edge. Also when I was first understanding the cost for just adding the +1 to a sword, I was getting the cost that everyone else pays not what I pay.
My best guess is looking down the list to Lantern of Revealing, since it is a continuous effect. I am assuming that Keen would be too. Both are 3rd level spells and both require the caster to be 5th level to cast them. When I multiply that by 2000 I come up with 30,000gp.
My GM has said that this is what the item would be worth and not what I would pay and I would pay the construction cost (half) 15,000gp
I am not sure if this is high or not as one of my friends said something like 6000. I never asked where he got the number. I thought I looked up keen edge around here and found an even lower number so I am not sure what to think.
If I am wrong, I would like to know what the exact method is for calculating the cost is. People keep pointing others to the back of the CRB when it comes to item creation and I don't find the book very helpful.
thanks.
One last question. What you just said should be in the back of the Core rule book. Why isn't it? And if it is, it isn't in plain sight like that one page for creating magic items.
you're better off. :D
One last question. What you just said should be in the back of the Core rule book. Why isn't it? And if it is, it isn't in plain sight like that one page for creating magic items.
It is right there in plain sight.
To start with, "Adding New Abilities" on page 553 tells you how to calculate the price for upgrading an existing item (simply calculate the final price and subtract the current price).
And now you don't even need the table on page 550. At all. You can look at the section for creating magic weapons if you want, but you don't even need that.
Just go look at the Magic Items chapter (chapter 15), Table 15-9 "Melee Weapon Special Abilities". On page 469 of the core rulebook. There you see that Keen is a +1 special ability.
On the previous page (468), look at table 15-8 "Weapons" and read the text around it. You have a +1 weapon and you're adding a +1 special ability for a total of +2. The table says your +1 weapon is worth 2,000gp and a +2 weapon is worth 8,000gp, so you pay the difference (those prices don't include price for the masterwork weapon but the difference is still exactly 6,000gp).
If you're doing the work yourself, you pay half (3,000gp for the raw materials to upgrade the sword), or if you're paying some NPC in town, he charges the full 6,000gp.
Either way, it takes 6 days.
Done and done.
you're better off. :D
Don't be so hard on the rulebook. Yeah, sure, it doesn't have helpful hyperlinks like the SRD, but no book does. Everything you need is right there in the book and if you have patience and take the time to read through it, it really will all make perfect sense.
I start to get lost when I want to add properties to things. There isn't an example like Keen edge. Also when I was first understanding the cost for just adding the +1 to a sword, I was getting the cost that everyone else pays not what I pay.
My best guess is looking down the list to Lantern of Revealing, since it is a continuous effect. I am assuming that Keen would be too. Both are 3rd level spells and both require the caster to be 5th level to cast them. When I multiply that by 2000 I come up with 30,000gp.
My GM has said that this is what the item would be worth and not what I would pay and I would pay the construction cost (half) 15,000gp
Your GM is all wrong. This is not the way to do it.
You're trying to add a spell to a magical weapon, which you CAN do if you want to, in which case there are ways to do that - but I'd avoid that unless you absolutely have to.
What the core rulebook says, on page 549, "Magic Item Gold Piece Values", first paragraph, is to price according to similar existing magic items.
While you could add the "Keen Edge" spell to a weapon, you could also (and in fact MUST also, according to the rulebook), compare to existing weapon magic items. This is where you find "Keen" as a standard weapon property. It does exactly what the spell does, exactly what you want, and it's an existing property with the existing price structure, so you use that BEFORE you start whipping up permanent spell prices.