LOOTING in combat useing SoH

[thejeff]

Atarlost wrote:

thejeff wrote:

DrDeth wrote:

Rub-Eta wrote:

Fourleaf wrote:

Also, would you let your players do this to their party? (I corrected this for you)

I would. I'm not going to tell a player "No, you can't do this" when it's totaly legal, rules wise. [

So when a player sez his pC murders all the other PC's in their sleep and takes their stuff- and keep doing this time after time, so that no one but him gets to play more than a day- - well, that's "totaly legal, rules wise

"? And it's not by the way.

Of course it's very easy to tell a player not to do this since you are the DM and you can say "Hey, this is a No Evils campaign, that was evil, that PC is now my NPC."

It's even easier to say: "Don't be a dick or don't bother showing up next week."

Metagame problems are best solved out of game.

But imagine how hard it would have been to get an NPC trusted by the party enough that his betrayal would sting without the players being upset at the GM for the twist. If you let the jerk betray the party and then declare his character an NPC after he does so you get the sort of personal antagonist you could never get otherwise in a normal gaming group.

It might even be worth giving him warnings to string the misbehavior along to get an even more hated antagonist out of the deal.

Even worse, IMO. Fellow PCs are generally given more latitude. "PC glow". You usually can't just kick PCs out of the group or not bring the new character along. Taking advantage of that generally makes it feel like the GM and one player are conspiring against the others. The resulting anger/frustration are likely to be directed against the people as the character.

It also sets up potential future problems - don't trust any new PCs not to be set ups. It's hard enough to come up with plausible reasons for replacement characters to join up. Not a good idea to add justifiable player paranoia.

[DM_Blake]

On a side note...

Will players ever, please oh mighty gods, EVER stop playing CN as a pre-fabricated excuse to get away with endless dick-moves vs. NPCs and/or PCs alike?

Ever???

[Fourleaf]

DM_Blake wrote:

On a side note...

Will players ever, please oh mighty gods, EVER stop playing CN as a pre-fabricated excuse to get away with endless dick-moves vs. NPCs and/or PCs alike?

Ever???

This is the first time I've played something other than a NG-G cleric. As for my next guy, he is going to be lvl 5 musket master that found religion and became a holy gun LG. so one level into holy gun now and will stay that way. Staying ranged because this is a group of ten and six of them are melee I'd like to stay out of the cluster. Being LG is the GM idea because the party is getting so off the rails and thinks have a LG paladin telling them they can't kill everyone and anyone for anything they want.

As for getting caught i can just out those plotting to kill party members and the sorcerer that is a Dhampir also most likely to be E. Hope this causes enough of a distraction to get away making me into a npc that might show up later...

[Doomed Hero]

I am so tired of Chaotic Neutral being the alignment for people who just want to screw over their party members.

That's not what Chaotic Neutral is. Do a quick search for it on TV Tropes. See for yourself.

As for the OP, your game sounds like it is doomed and you have no one but yourself to blame. I hope you figure things out before people start getting angry at each other. Good luck.

[thejeff]

Doomed Hero wrote:

I am so tired of Chaotic Neutral being the alignment for people who just want to screw over their party members.

That's not what Chaotic Neutral is. Do a quick search for it on TV Tropes. See for yourself.

As for the OP, your game sounds like it is doomed and you have no one but yourself to blame. I hope you figure things out before people start getting angry at each other. Good luck.

It really sounds like the game is probably pretty doomed from the start. The other regulars are onto killing off new PCs.