how much damage does a +1 longbow that shoots a normal arrow.
1d8 or 1d8+1?
another question, the feat weapon focus ( longbow) grant the +1 to composite longbow
1d8+1, and yes. Composite longbows count as normal longbows.
For purposes of Weapon Proficiency and similar feats, a composite longbow is treated as if it were a longbow.
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that's the problem.
no sense.
the book tells that only tha amunition gets its special aptitude, not its enhancement bonus. With that rule the arcane archer its totally useless, hence my question. Besides, the long bow and the composite long bow are two different weapons and in the adventure paths I've played they've always been separated.
besides, the magic arrows too will be useless
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the long bow and the composite long bow are two different weapons and in the adventure paths I've played they've always been separated.
They are different weapons.
One grants you your Strength bonus to damage, and the other does not.
For the purposes of proficiency and abilities they simply require the same amount of skill.
that's the problem.
no sense.
the book tells that only tha amunition gets its special aptitude, not its enhancement bonus.
Incorrect.
Ranged Weapons and Ammunition: The enhancement bonus from a ranged weapon does not stack with the enhancement bonus from ammunition. Only the higher of the two enhancement bonuses applies.
The enhancement bonus of normal ammunition is +0. Therefore, you use the enhancement bonus of the longbow itself. A +1 longbow firing mundane arrows deals 1d8+1 damage.
Besides, the long bow and the composite long bow are two different weapons and in the adventure paths I've played they've always been separated.
They are two separate weapons. They are just treated as the same for the purpose of feats that require you to choose a single weapon. Weapon Focus (longbow) works for both normal longbows and composite longbows.
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that's the problem.
no sense.
the book tells that only tha amunition gets its special aptitude, not its enhancement bonus.Incorrect.
Ranged Weapons and Ammunition: The enhancement bonus from a ranged weapon does not stack with the enhancement bonus from ammunition. Only the higher of the two enhancement bonuses applies.The enhancement bonus of normal ammunition is +0. Therefore, you use the enhancement bonus of the longbow itself. A +1 longbow firing mundane arrows deals 1d8+1 damage.
yes. correct, but the rule continue, and don't mention that was damage.
but nevertheless,Ammunition fired from a projectile weapon with an enhancementbonus of +1 or higher is treated as a magic weapon for the purpose of overcoming damage reduction.Similarly, ammunition fired from a projectile weapon with an alignment gains the alignment of that projectile weapon.here yes mention the damage, the ammunition is treated as a magic to efect superate damage reduction, dont say any more. It is very vague as to definition.
If i look NPC i found whit this:
Shalelu Str 12,Base Atk +6; Weapon Focus (composite longbow) Ranged +1 composite longbow +11/+6 (1d8+1/×3)JAKARDROS SOVARK Str 12, Base Atk +8, + 1 shocking composite longbow +12/+7 (1d8+2/x3 plus 1d6 electricity)
Zaiobe Str 12,Dex 17, Base Atk +8; Martial Weapon Proficiency (longbow) Ranged +1 composite longbow +12/+7 (1d8+2/×3)
each NPC I find is made a diferent form. I lost.
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If i look NPC i found whit this:
Shalelu Str 12,Base Atk +6; Weapon Focus (composite longbow) Ranged +1 composite longbow +11/+6 (1d8+1/×3)
JAKARDROS SOVARK Str 12, Base Atk +8, + 1 shocking composite longbow +12/+7 (1d8+2/x3 plus 1d6 electricity)
Zaiobe Str 12, Base Atk +8; Martial Weapon Proficiency (longbow) Ranged +1 composite longbow +12/+7 (1d8+2/×3)
each NPC I find is made a diferent form. I lost
Jade Regent, right?
I don't think Shalelu's composite bow has a Strength rating.
It just has the increased range.
yes. correct, but the rule continue, and don't mention that was damage. but nevertheless,
here yes mention the damage, the ammunition is treated as a magic to efect superate damage reduction, dont say any more. It is very vague as to definition.
A weapons enhancement bonus applies to both attack and damage rolls. There is no need to specifically mention it again.
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It's also important to note that sometimes scenarios, often written by authors that are not a part of the rules team, get things wrong.
While it's published Paizo material, statblocks should not be used as a basis for rules interpretations (though they can certainly serve as evidence when the actual rules are ambiguous).
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A weapons enhancement bonus applies to both attack and damage rolls. There is no need to specifically mention it again.
Magic weapons have enhancement bonuses ranging from +1 to +5. They apply these bonuses to both attack and damage rolls when used in combat.
Yes, definition basic of ehancement bonus, you right.
Ranged Weapons and Ammunition:Ammunition fired from a projectile weapon with an enhancement bonus of +1 or higher is treated as a magic weapon.
English is not my mother language, so please, be patient with me.
If is treated how magic weapon to damage reduction. It means that the arrow is not magic.if the arrow is not magic don't should have the enchantment of the weapon.
It is a conclusion I gather
is there any way to ask to make a supplement Paizo expanding this rule?
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ajam, i remembered i read in somewhere.
Table 15–10: Ranged Weapon Special Abilities
2- Bows, crossbows, and slings crafted with this ability bestow this power upon their ammunition.
the weapons can bestow the special abilities to ammunition, At first I thought what all special abilities go to ammo, but there are exceptions.
Furansisuco:
1) Composite Longbows count as Longbows for feats that require a Longbow.
For purposes of Weapon Proficiency and similar feats, a composite longbow is treated as if it were a longbow.
2) Composite Longbows have a strength rating that starts at +0 and goes up. The strength rating allows you to add your strength modifier to damage up to that value. If your strength modifier is below that value you have a -2 penalty to attack. If you have a strength modifier that is negative you also have that as a penalty to damage.
All composite bows are made with a particular strength rating (that is, each requires a minimum Strength modifier to use with proficiency). If your Strength bonus is less than the strength rating of the composite bow, you can’t effectively use it, so you take a –2 penalty on attacks with it. The default composite longbow requires a Strength modifier of +0 or higher to use with proficiency. A composite longbow can be made with a high strength rating to take advantage of an above-average Strength score; this feature allows you to add your Strength bonus to damage, up to the maximum bonus indicated for the bow. Each point of Strength bonus granted by the bow adds 100 gp to its cost. If you have a penalty for low Strength, apply it to damage rolls when you use a composite longbow.
3) A bow's enhancement score (magic bonus) applies to the arrow's attack and damage.
Ranged Weapons and Ammunition: The enhancement bonus from a ranged weapon does not stack with the enhancement bonus from ammunition. Only the higher of the two enhancement bonuses applies.
4) Additionally, since the magic of the bow is imparted on the arrow, it effectively has the same enhancement bonus the bow has for purposes of bypassing DR.
Ammunition fired from a projectile weapon with an enhancement bonus of +1 or higher is treated as a magic weapon for the purpose of overcoming damage reduction. Similarly, ammunition fired from a projectile weapon with an alignment gains the alignment of that projectile weapon.
You seem to think that number 4 contradicts number 3. It doesn't, it is just spelling it out in great detail so that rules lawyers don't get confused.
In short, you are overthinking it. The arrow has all the same bonuses that the bow has.