Rogue Talent mix and match

[thorin001]

1) Can a CRB Rogue take Unchained versions of Rogue Talents?
2) Can an Unchained Rogue take CRB versions of Rogue Talents?
3) Can a character other than a Rogue who has Rogue Talents take Unchained Rogue Talents and if he does for some must he take all his Rogue Talents from that source, or can he mix and match?

[Andrew Christian]

No mixing

[BigNorseWolf]

No mix and match critters.

Rogues go unchained unless they have a really weird build built around one of the not allowed talents which.. i haven't seen anything worth building around.

Barbarian i can't see any reason to switch. Some of the rage powers look worse. Damage is lower with two handed weapons.

[SCPRedMage]

BigNorseWolf wrote:

Barbarian i can't see any reason to switch. Some of the rage powers look worse. Damage is lower with two handed weapons.

Supposedly, a large part of the design goal for the unchained barbarian was to make it easier to understand; putting the bonuses directly on the end result (attack/damage) instead of further upstream (ability scores) certainly makes it easier for newbies to grasp.

That, and not dying when you drop out of rage is a pretty good bonus, too.

I would definitely steer newer players towards the unchained version, but there really isn't that good of a reason for veteran players to choose it over the original.

[thorin001]

That answers 1 and 2, and was the expected answer. But what about question 3? The Archaeologist Bard gets Rogue Talents. Can he select Unchained Rogue Talents?

[Andrew Christian]

No. Only the unchained rogue can take unchained rogue talents.

[thorin001]

Since this has been moved to the general rules forum from the PFS section I must ask for your source. The Archaeologist says he gets Rogue Talents, and the unchained stuff says Rogue Talents. What limits him from selecting those talents?

[thorin001]

And questions 1 and 2 are now back on the table since this is no longer a PFS specific discussion.