New Wounds system?


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Could anyone provide any details on this? is it a death spiral?


I'm talking about the one featured in unchained...if anyone was unclear. Gag orders not-withstanding...


I guess no one knows.Thanks anyway.

Silver Crusade Contributor

75%/50%/25%. -1/-2/-3; applies to caster level as well as the other stuff (which means it can lock a caster out of his highest-level spells temporarily). A GM who wants a "gritty" campaign can double the penalties.

Under the system, Endurance reduces the penalties by 1. A couple of new feats as well.

Hope that helps. Patience! :)


Thanks alot Kalindlara.I'm very excited for the new release,as are many others I'm sure. I scanned the other unchained threads for the info and couldn't find it.I appreciate your response. :)

Silver Crusade Contributor

No problem! :)

I'm actually excited for almost everything in Unchained. In this case, I was really glad to see that the system had a meaningful penalty for casters as well.


The gritty version can be a death spiral, but the normal version is good. It makes Endurance an important feat.


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Is it designed to apply to the enemies as well? It seems that it should to be balanced, but keeping track of what percent all the enemies are at, the corresponding penalty and all that for multiple bad guys in a combat seems rough on the poor GM.


Dave Justus wrote:

Is it designed to apply to the enemies as well? It seems that it should to be balanced, but keeping track of what percent all the enemies are at, the corresponding penalty and all that for multiple bad guys in a combat seems rough on the poor GM.

They address this in the book. Mass groups you track above 50% and under 50%. They take a -2 below 50%. Named (iconic) NPC's take the full wounds system.


I would not recommend it for dungeon crawling games, but I feel it would add nice tension to urban crawls. Ambushes get lot of priority when sheer damage can greatly debilitate your opponents.

I got this neat feeling that the system would make perfect mix if used with Unearthed Arcana's reserve points. You get a chance to reset the spiral if needed.

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