about playing out of subtier...

[zauriel56]

someone told me if you play out of subtier you only get the gold for your original subtier. so if you play a 5-9 and play in subtier 8-9 but are level 6 you only get level 6 gold rather than Out if subtier gold. I couldnt find anything in the Guide to PFS play and was hoping someone could shed some light for me.

[Mark Stratton]

Page 36 of the guide, second column, Step 5:

"If the PC's level is not within the subtier played...circle the Out-of-Subtier gold value...."

So, if you you played a level 6 character, and the table played in Subtier 8-9, your character would get the Out-of-Subtier gold.

[zauriel56]

ohh looked in wrong place, thanks.

[trollbill]

Note that Out of Subtier gold is not calculated on ACs for Seasons prior to 5 so your GM will have to calculate it by averaging the 5-7 gold with the 8-9 gold (add the two numbers and divide by 2), if it is an older mod.

[Blackbot]

The reasoning is pretty simple:
If you play in a higher subtier than appropriate you risk more, thus your reward is higher.
If you play in a lower subtier than appropriate you risk less, thus your reward is lower.

[Mystic Lemur]

If your level is not the level of the subtier you play at, you get out-of-subtier gold. Doesn't matter if higher, or lower. You're either in subtier, or you're out.

[Anonymous Visitor 163 576]

This is an area where the rules have changed from previous. Your friend may not have noticed the changes.

[Andrew Christian]

Except the rules never said you get the gold from the sub-tier closest to your level.

[trollbill]

Any change in a rule can cause confusion and it is not uncommon that people may mix up a new rule with an old one to the point that their understanding of the rule is incorrect in both the old and new situations. I can't count the number of times I have mixed up 3.5 & PF rules to the point that my brain "split the difference" and came up with a rule that wasn't correct for either game. Of course, it doesn't help that I am currently playing in 3 different systems.

[Nefreet]

The biggest confusion I encounter is with Tier 1-2 scenarios, since they're newer but still don't have an out-of-tier box for gold.

Explaining that you still need to calculate out-of-tier gold often rewards me with at least one blank stare.

[Totenpfuhl]

Nefreet wrote:

The biggest confusion I encounter is with Tier 1-2 scenarios, since they're newer but still don't have an out-of-tier box for gold.

Explaining that you still need to calculate out-of-tier gold often rewards me with at least one blank stare.

New GMs have to learn sometime.

[Artoo]

Nefreet wrote:

The biggest confusion I encounter is with Tier 1-2 scenarios, since they're newer but still don't have an out-of-tier box for gold.

Explaining that you still need to calculate out-of-tier gold often rewards me with at least one blank stare.

There's actually a post from John Compton saying that for The Confirmation everyone just gets the gold for whichever tier was played. I assumed the same applied to The Wounded Wisp, but I don't know if that was ever explicitly stated.

[Conman the Bardbarian]

Artoo wrote:

Nefreet wrote:

The biggest confusion I encounter is with Tier 1-2 scenarios, since they're newer but still don't have an out-of-tier box for gold.

Explaining that you still need to calculate out-of-tier gold often rewards me with at least one blank stare.

There's actually a post from John Compton saying that for The Confirmation everyone just gets the gold for whichever tier was played. I assumed the same applied to The Wounded Wisp, but I don't know if that was ever explicitly stated.

There's also one for out of tier gold.

[Artoo]

Conman the Bardbarian wrote:

Artoo wrote:

Nefreet wrote:

The biggest confusion I encounter is with Tier 1-2 scenarios, since they're newer but still don't have an out-of-tier box for gold.

Explaining that you still need to calculate out-of-tier gold often rewards me with at least one blank stare.

There's actually a post from John Compton saying that for The Confirmation everyone just gets the gold for whichever tier was played. I assumed the same applied to The Wounded Wisp, but I don't know if that was ever explicitly stated.

There's also one for out of tier gold.

Huh, interesting. Well, now I know.

[Nefreet]

Yup.

Exactly the sort of discussion I have when running those scenarios.